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Are the Cavs willing to give up too much for Love?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Jet036, Jul 23, 2014.

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  1. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    What grouthink are you talking about?
     
  2. SPURS

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    I agree. Kawhi is the best player in his class. Kawhi is going to exponentially get better as time goes by. Can you believe we got the best player in the draft for a good bench player?
     
  3. cyntil8ing

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    How are people that sure about what Wiggins is actually capable of in the big leagues? I get that he's a #1 pick but dang, are people really valuing him over Love already? As Carl Just mentioned, Love is already an elite player in his position. Some people are so ready to gamble on Wiggins' supposed defensive prowess in the NBA with no real sizable sampling to base it on. I'm intrigued by him as well. Maybe Wiggins is that player but people want him to be. If he's not, say bye bye to his trade value.

    Here's the risk, if Wiggins is anything but a true franchise player, not the likes of Lamarcus, Carmelo, or Love for that matter, the Cavs basically lose out on a truly great opportunity to win now. You're not only gambling on Wiggins ability to be transformative immediately but on Lebron's prime and Kyrie's future. That's a crap-load to hedge on faith.

    As far as potential trade partners, an intriguing development recently happened with GSW. Klay will be asking for max. That'll be one to chew on for GSW's FO if it came down to him. A maxed out Klay or a maxed out Love. I'd argue that Love's a better proposition.
     
  4. shastarocket

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    Kawhi is great, but cmon man... You're telling em he's better than Kyrie, Kemba, Klay or (potentially) Vucevic?

    Side note: That's a lot of "K's"!
     
  5. A_3PO

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    That trade is a steal for the Cavs. Wiggins might be very good in 2-3 years. Bennett's summer league performance is Fool's Gold IMO. Cavs 1st round pick next year isn't worth much. In return, they get a near top-5 player that is the perfect match on offense to play off LeBron and Kyrie.

    Love >>>>>>>>> Wiggins + Bennett + 2015 1st round pick.

    To those of you who ask what the 2nd best offer is: T-Wolves can just keep Love until the trade deadline. I think that is really what Flip wants. He doesn't want to coach a bunch of youngsters with no chance of winning.

    Cavs MUST make this trade or eyes will start rolling again.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    The dude is a straight up troll. Best save your e-breath and put him on ignore, STAT.
     
  7. Aleron

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    It's probably the wrong word, herd behaviour would be the more correct term.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    No, trading Wiggins is dumb. Is it worth Wiggins to get Love? Sure. But, that's overpaying. The market doesn't bear that sort of price. Minnesota is in a distressed position because all signs point to Love leaving for nothing as a free agent. They are motivated sellers. Meanwhile, the offers for him from other teams are anemic. What are the Bulls offering? Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler? And the Warriors' offer of Lee, Barnes and maybe Klay Thompson? There has to be a cheaper bundle Cleveland can offer around Bennett, Waiters, and/or Thompson.
     
  9. SPURS

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    Are you serious? WTF?! Kawhi guards all the best players and raped Lebron in the last 3 games of the finals. Can any of those players do that? So far Kawhi has played in 3 WCFs and 2 Finals and played great in all of them. All those other players have sht playoff experience.
     
  10. SPURS

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    Kawhi doesn't shrink in the playoffs. He actually gets better if you could believe that.
     
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    1. Kevin Durant-OKC .295
    2. Chris Paul-LAC .270
    3. LeBron James-MIA .264
    4. Kevin Love-MIN .245
    5. Stephen Curry-GSW .225
    6. James Harden-HOU .221
    7. Anthony Davis-NOP .212
    8. Blake Griffin-LAC .205
    9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL .199
    10. Kyle Lowry-TOR .197
    11. Kawhi Leonard-SAS .193
    12. Joakim Noah-CHI .190
    13. Goran Dragic-PHO .186
    14. DeAndre Jordan-LAC .186
    15. Andre Drummond-DET .182
    16. Paul George-IND .178
    17. Manu Ginobili-SAS .176
    18. Andrew Bogut-GSW .176
    19. Robin Lopez-POR .176
    20. Patrick Mills-SAS .175

    WS/48 in the regular season for 2014.
    Wonder what his numbers would look like if he played more mins and was the main option. Scary.
     
  12. BasketballMind

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    No, they're willing to give up too much for a championship.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    By whom? There's a lot of disagreement in this thread.
     
  14. DonatasFanboy

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    It sounds like you just want to use a big smart word. I see people having different opinions, I don't see a "herd."
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    Yes, easily better than all of those.

    They are young and things can change, but as of now Kawhi is much better.
     
  16. spysta

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    Is love truly elite though? He really is padding stats on a garbage team. Now he does complement lebron perfectly, even though I think Bosh is better than Kevin Love, Love is essential who Spo was trying to turn Bosh in to.

    I mean you kinda have to made the trade but the Cavs will regret it at some point, I believe Wiggins has the goods and will be truly elite.
     
  17. spysta

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    The Bulls are offering Nikola Mirotic, Taj Gibson, and Doug McDermott....

    Very interesting offer
     
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    If you're the Cavs you got to do it.

    Make no mistake, Wiggins could be a a future hOF and turn out to be better than Love but right now he is not there.

    If Cavs do get Love, they are primed to challenge for thext X amount of years until Lebron appreciably declines.
     
  20. WinkFan

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    IF I'm Minny, I'm not sure getting Bennett, Waiter, and/or Thompson is better than getting nothing.
     

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