1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. Watching NBA Action
    It's the EAST FINALS Game 2 as Tatum and the Celtics host Haliburton and the Pacers. Join us as we watch the NBA playoffs together...

    LIVE: NBA Playoffs!
    Dismiss Notice

Is Cleveland an easier situation than Miami?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by downbytheriver, Jul 11, 2014.

?

Easier road to NBA Title

  1. Decaying Miami

    10.7%
  2. 'on the rise Cleveland

    89.3%
  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,661
    Likes Received:
    6,028
    Doesn't matter. If LeBron had stayed in Miami, they wouldn't have won a championship next year. The roster on the Cavs will improve with time while the Heat clearly were going downhill.

    If LeBron felt he could have won another championship in Miami, I have little doubt he would have stayed. But the Heat were a .500 team the last 2 months of the regular season and only made the Finals because of the pathetic Eastern Conference. LeBron actually experienced the "handwriting on the wall" and was sick and tired of it. For him, Cleveland Cavaliers > Miami Cavaliers.

    Bosh said they didn't have fun last season. (As long as he gets along with David Blatt) LeBron will have fun in Cleveland, championship or not.
     
  2. Bosh4

    Bosh4 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lebrons move back to cle was not about basketball in any way shape or form. Its bigger than basketball.
     
  3. tchou

    tchou Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2005
    Messages:
    725
    Likes Received:
    8
    so young. so innocent.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Depends on if they get Love and keep Kyrie.
     
  5. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,434
    Likes Received:
    24,585
    This. But Cleveland clearly has more potential than Miami going forward.

    However, as some people have mentioned, there are other options that are easier than Cleveland. I think it is a mixed motive for LeBron to go back to the Cavaliers. He is ditching Miami because the Heat is no longer viable. He is going back to Cleveland because it give s him a good shot while at the same time with all the warm and fuzzy feelings.

    Going to places like Chicago or Houston would clearly make him look like a ring chaser.
     
  6. sun12

    sun12 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    2,044
    Likes Received:
    14
    Right now, Las Vegas betting line puts Cleveland as the #1 favorite to win the 2015 NBA championship, so it is the professional talking with money on the line.

    No doubt I am taking Vegas position to say Cleveland is the favorite. People can talk whatever they want without putting down their own money, but when money is involved, you bet Cleveland, OKC, and Spurs are the top 3.
     
  7. DonatasFanboy

    DonatasFanboy Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2012
    Messages:
    10,645
    Likes Received:
    504
    That's because many people will bet on Cleveland due to hype, regardless of stakes. It makes sense for Vegas to offer a bad deal to these people and take their money.
     
  8. Bosh4

    Bosh4 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thats true. So many people are betting on Cleveland, vegas has to adjust the line accordingly.

    But anyone who says "lebron would have stayed in miami if wade healthy, if they won this year, blah blah blah..." don't get it. LeBron went to cleveland for reasons other than basketball.
     
  9. Mr. Space City

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    31,048
    Likes Received:
    36,464
    if wade was still playing at a high level and the heat beat the spurs i think he would have stayed.

    i think he knows wade is done and the heat had o cap space to really get better so it was either lose again in miami or go back and try to rebuild with cleveland. at least losing in cleveland wouldn't have as much "heat" as losing in miami.
     
  10. Bosh4

    Bosh4 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    If you believe that, then you didn't read the letter he posted on si.com.
     
  11. Mr. Space City

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    31,048
    Likes Received:
    36,464
    i like lebron but even i'm not falling for that PR written nonsense. ;)
     
  12. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    If Wade was still a superstar, he's staying. If you saw his frustrations throughout the season and esp. the NBA Finals, he was playing by his lonesome most of the year. That's the main reason he left.
     
  13. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    58,997
    Likes Received:
    36,567
    All correct, I'm just saying that the Cavs on paper aren't very good as of right now and would have been wrecked by the Spurs.

    They were a mediocre lotto team for a reason, the reason bring their team isn't very good.
     
  14. WinkFan

    WinkFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    96
    Foolish indeed.
     
  15. Bosh4

    Bosh4 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    If you believe that, then you didn't read the heart-felt letter HE wrote. That was not PR. HE WROTE THAT LETTER HIMSELF. His heart is in Cleveland and he made things right. This is bigger than basketball.

    If LeBron were only about Championships he would not have gone to Cleveland. He would have gone to Houston or Chicago or maybe even Dallas. Hell, he could have taken the vet minimum and played in San Antonio, Clippers, or GSW if he were really about championships.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now