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Ibaka or Howard?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mrjohn, May 29, 2014.

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Who would you rather have: Ibaka or Howard?

  1. Howard: he is a better rebounder and post threat

    122 vote(s)
    73.9%

  2. Ibaka: he is better for our team (range, age, contract)

    27 vote(s)
    16.4%

  3. They are about the same when you consider it all

    4 vote(s)
    2.4%

  4. Who cares - it'll never be discussed

    12 vote(s)
    7.3%
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  1. mrjohn

    mrjohn Member

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    Who would you rather have?

    Howard is stronger which helps him be a better rebounder and post scorer (though it isn't efficient overall when you consider the TOs and PPP).

    Other than that Serge is younger, a better shooter (from the line, from midrange and from the 3), quicker, more athletic, seemingly smarter, "healthier", and on a much better contract.

    Which GM would be more inclined to discuss a Perkins/Ibaka for Howard trade? I know it doesn't seem like a likely scenario. But Ibaka's friendly contract plus Perkins expiring would open up space for any max (with Lin and Asik expiring then too).

    Ibaka would open up driving lanes which would help Harden, Lin. And more time for Asik too since he could play with Serge.
     
    #1 mrjohn, May 29, 2014
  2. Nook

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    Howard is a class above Ibaka.
     
    #2 Nook, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka , so that Harden got the chance to bang his gf again
     
    #3 Lihao, May 29, 2014
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    Presti did amazing job. Durant, WB and Ibaka(plus Harden) should be #1 overall picks in a lot of drafts.
     
    #4 haoafu, May 29, 2014
  5. mrjohn

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    How so?

    Cap wise with Harden making the first max, serge making less than the max, and parsons upcoming deal that can be delayed til next summer....we would have enough room to get another max guy plus have Harden, Ibaka and Parsons.

    I think the pros are there.
     
    #5 mrjohn, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka is closer to a role player, although a really good one. Howard can take over games.
     
    #7 Pieman2005, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka is so overrated it isn't even funny anymore.

    Obviously Howard. His impact defensively is far greater, better rebounder and better offensive post presence.
     
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  9. mrjohn

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    I agree with that. What do you think of a lineup of Bev, Harden, Parsons, Love, Ibaka?

    If Love becomes an FA next summer we could have that 5 on long term deals.
     
    #9 mrjohn, May 29, 2014
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    Next let's discuss Lebron or Parsons, and Harden or J.R. Smith.
     
    #10 HR Dept, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka is a ****ing role player.
     
    #11 larsv8, May 29, 2014
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    Lets not forget about Ibaka faking a season ending injury.

    If Dwight did that ****, the media would rip him into pieces. But because its Ibaka, the media tries to turn him into the legendary Willis Reed.
     
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  13. mrjohn

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    Howard may be better but is he a better fit? He's older, makes a lot more, is more of an injury risk, not a good ft shooter, has no range, turns the ball over a lot, etc.

    Ibaka, Harden, Parsons, 2015 Max (love?) could be your Core Four for a Spursian time.
     
    #13 mrjohn, May 29, 2014
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    The cap hit from Howard isn't going to make much difference concerning Parsons. The Rockets can still get another max player and keep Parson, Harden and Howard.

    Ibaka is a role player (although a very good one). He is not the overall defender that Howard is, nor is he a rebounder. Also Howard is a legitimate 5, Ibaka isn't.

    Serge is very good but he isn't in Howard's class.

    Also, if Ibaka is really as good as Howard... Then OKC has real issues if they cannot beat SA with KD, RW and Ibaka.
     
    #14 Nook, May 29, 2014
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    Smh, clutchfans, I am dissapoint. Ibaka is playing a ROLE. He's there to block shots and play defense. You CANNOT build a team around him. He cannot take a team to the finals if he's your best player, (dwight did it) it's as simple as that.
     
    #15 mario_v, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka is not a full time 5... He is a 4.

    Howard/Anthony/Parsons/Harden/Beverley
     
    #16 Nook, May 29, 2014
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    clearly it has to be Howard... Ibaka, even if some people think he is a better defender, he can't create anything for himself on offense. All of his scoring is directly from what others (Durant/Westbrook) create for him. Howard is a beast on both ends of the floor!
     
    #17 PhatPharaoh, May 29, 2014
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    Yes, Howard is a better fit.
     
    #18 Aleron, May 29, 2014
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    Ibaka can block shots, and take open jumpers.

    Howard has been the #1 option on a finals team.
     
    #19 CCorn, May 29, 2014
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    I don't think he faked it, and he came back as soon as could..
     
    #20 Pieman2005, May 29, 2014
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