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Would you stop following the Rockets if they traded Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Brando2101, May 11, 2014.

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Would you stop following the Rockets if they traded Lin?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Neped

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    I agree. So many players who make the same mistakes get passes. He is given no room for error.
     
  2. Neped

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    To be honest, that was unlike CP3. He rarely plays that bad.
     
  3. Jt29

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    There are 4 other rockets players on the court plus coaches who can signaled the timeout. Noone did it. If your teammates know how bad your turnover prone is, why they didnt help him call TO? Why? Plus the coaches, who shall be smarter than all of them, why mchale? The last time i check on the rules, coach can call timeout, not only the player who hold the ball.

    Also if mchale know Lin choke big time in big moments, why did he let him play? Why? Why? Ohhhh.. Im sorry, its Lin, so its gotta be his fault. Lin is the nominated dedicated official crucified scapegoat of rockets losses.
     
  4. BMoney

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    The persecution complex many of Lin's fans have is really something. Lin, himself, wouldn't last a month in the league of he had that same sense of entitlement.
     
  5. jaedenky

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    Actually Lin has spoken many times in the past about the racism he experienced in the recruiting process and at college/high school games. At College games, entire sections of mostly white spectators yelled out racial slurs like ch*nk and G**k, told him to "open his eyes". The racism actually helped fuel him to prove the haters wrong, then he gets to the NBA and Jason Whitlock tweets that he has a small penis, ESPN runs "chink in the armour" headline and Floyd Mayweather tweets that Lin is only getting attention because he is Asian.

    The truth is that racism is s huge part of Jeremy's story, he is a strong person with a strong will but any human would be disheartened by such treatment. Most of this is swept under the rug because Asians are not considered a protected class in the west and most westerners carry unconscious biases against them as a group, Lin is not a racist but his experiences are not unique to him, almost all Asians growing up in the west can relate to this type of persecution. He would probably never admit it but the racism helped fuel him and since he is human the racism he experienced shaped his views of the world around him and what it means to be Asian in this country and experience the hatred and ignorance, it still fuels him to this day.
     
  6. sirbaihu

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    Who has a bigger emotional investment, LOF's or his supposed haters? The answer is obvious, and your entire analysis explains LOF's total irrationality.
     
  7. jaedenky

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    What you say is actually partially true but how do you measure something like emotional investment? Hate and prejudice is often a stronger emotion than loyalty toward a NBA player. Do you deny that there are any haters at all? Because I do not deny that there are some irrational Lin fans, can you do the same in reverse? Who is being more irrational, one who acknowledges that there are exceptions or one who thinks in absolutes?
     
  8. sirbaihu

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    There may be a few. But this is the team of Yao Ming, you know. Serious Rockets fans are very used to cheering for a player a lot more Asian than Lin (e.g. foreign born, speaks English as a second language, is not Christian). The differences include: Yao was better, Yao did not claim to be doing God's will, YOF's did not claim that he was like Rosa Parks, Jackie Robinson, etc.
     
  9. jaedenky

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    Not all Lin fans say he is like Robinson and I've never heard the comparison with Rosa Parks so if you're going to just start making things up then two can play that game.

    I've heard Lin fans compare Jackie Robinsons story as being similar in respect to the fact that they both had to deal with racism, prejudice and ignorance, what is wrong with that in and of itself? Obviously the severity of the racism was much greater in the case of Robinson since it was during the time of civil rights, no Lin fan or rational person would deny that.

    The fact of the matter is: Lin did in fact experience much racism and prejudice in his life and basketball career, so you deny this? Because it has been fairly well documented and Lin himself has spoken about it openly in the past. Are you saying that Lin is a liar? that he did not experience what he did.

    The Facts:

    - Lin won the state championship in his senior year in high school and was named best player in California that year yet he did not receive even one single offer from a college school.

    - During College/High School games entire sections of fans and sometimes the entire stadium yelled racial slurs such as "ch*nk" and "g**k and chanted "open your eyes you ch*nk" in unison. Are you denying this happened even though it has been documented by Lin, his coaches and his team mates? Do you think this experience was a pleasant one? Do you not think it angered him, frustrated him and shaped his views? If an entire stadium of students yelled racial slurs at you would you like it? Would you want people to marginalize it and just say "meh"?

    - After a successfull College career, Lin did not get drafted by any NBA team despite outplaying 1st overrall draft pick John Wall in Summer League.

    - During Linsanity, sports reporter Jason Whitlock tweeted that Lin had a small penis because he was Asian. Whitlock initially refused to apologize stating that he had done nothing wrong, after public backlash from the Asian community Whitlock issued an apology but WAS NOT FIRED!! Is this not a case of racism and double standards? Do you think Lin appreciated these comments?

    - Then you have the Mayweather tweet, the "Chink in the armour" headline, Lin stating that players go harder at him and more physical because he is Asian. Even in this message board you have posters like Zboy posting a picture of a Asian midget and underneath he says "This is a Lin fan" yet no one cares about stuff like that instead they focus on the evil LOF's.

    Is he Jackie Robinson? No, obviously not. Did he experience a great deal of racism and prejudice, yes absolutely he did. Facts are facts.
     
  10. tinman

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    He actually unites all races,

    Every Rocket fan of all races, nationalities, genders think that he is overrated and makes horrible decisions as a point guard.

    Whether it's cantonese, hebrew, spanish, english, turkish, it's the same

    when Mo Williams stripped him, "HE SUCKS"
     
  11. tinman

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    Who the hell cares what he did in High School?

    Oh.

    CALIFORNIA LIN FANS.
     
  12. jaedenky

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    I see, so you choose to make light of his experiences and make a joke about it. Says more about you than it does about him as a player. Only unintelligent fools make jokes when they have nothing to say or no way to respond, in fact you just proved my points even more by your juvenile responses. Thanks idiot
     
  13. tinman

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    Lin fans don't count Yao Ming as the same type of Asian as Jeremy, because Yao Ming was loved by Rockets fans.

    I wish Lin fans would do like Rosa Parks and get on the bus departing Clutch City, next stop Bates Motel.
     
  14. mingthething

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    No true Scotsman much?
     
  15. jaedenky

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    OK buddy, whatever fits your narrative of the evil "Asian Lin Fans". Maybe the fact is that ASIAN AMERICANS relate more to an ASIAN AMERICAN since you know.. their experiences were more similar and they can relate to his underdog story and the way he overcame prejudice and racism. The fact you even joke and make light of the racism he encountered says a lot about your character, as a matter of fact you were probably one of the drunk racist fratboys yelling the racial slurs at Lin in college. I wish racist punks like you would just die off already, you're a dinosaur buddy, do like they did and go extinct already.
     
  16. tinman

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    I never once mentioned ASIAN AMERICANS

    I said ROCKETS FANS

    You are the one discriminating against Yao Ming

    What do you think Yao Ming is? Russian? Mexican?

    If some Lin fans were mutants, somebody call in the Sentinels
     
  17. tinman

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    Yao Ming, Jeremy Lin, and Patrick Beverly were on a plane that was about to crash.

    The problem was there was only 2 parachutes.

    Patrick Beverly said, I'm staying you guys jump.

    Jeremy Lin quickly grabs a parachute bag and gets ready to jump.

    Yao Ming said "Jeremy, you ready?"

    Jeremy says "Yes Yao"

    Yao Ming then steals Jeremy' parachutes and pushes him off the plane!

    Patrick Beverly says "Yao, why did you that?"

    Yao Ming "Hey that wasn't me, that was Mo Williams!!"

    Patrick/Yao: "AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH"
     
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  18. jaedenky

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    You said "Lin fans don't count Yao Ming as the same type of Asian as Jeremy" obviously you were stating that Asian Lin fans don't support Yao as much as Lin. I said a Lin fans generally relate to Lin more than Yao because the majority of Lin fans are Asian American and have had similar experiences to Lin than Yao. Obviously Yao is Asian but his experience and Lin's experience are vastly different.

    - Lin was born in the US, he is an American, ate American food, grew up in a multicultural environment, spoke english as a first language and experiecned racism and prejudice growing up as a minority. Yao was born and raised in China, ate Chinese food, spoke Chinese and was never a minority in his own country. Entirley different experiences, but you wouldn't know that because simpletons like yourself never try to empathize with others and are generally ignorant to the difference between an Asian American and an Asian from Asia.

    I'm not even sure what the hell you're even referencing Yao, what does he have to do with this discussion? Lin fans generally have no hatred for Yao and consider him to be a good player and person.
     
  19. tinman

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    Yao's experience was definitely different,

    he was never demoted to the bench cause he was a legit starting all star center for the Houston Rockets, not an overhyped free agent based on a few weeks of success for the Knicks.
     
  20. jaedenky

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    At least try to be actually funny if you're going to post nonsense. Man you are dumb as rocks, can somebody actually give me a more formidable opponent to argue with than this inbred simpleton? You're dumber than a single celled organism.
     

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