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[NBA Gossip] Donald Sterling Hates the Blacks, Including Magic

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by percicles, Apr 26, 2014.

  1. noone

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    Yes he has
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    Donald Sterling is a player?
     
  3. Major

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    Except I'm pretty sure he won't do that. So it's clear no precedent has been set. He's set a precedent that if something damages the business he manages, he might take aggressive action if he wishes. That's about it.
     
  4. Major

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    Commodore seems to have run into a situation where his free-market, libertarian worldview is playing out with drastically different results than he expects, and now he's lost and is just making wild and random statements. It's funny to see how quickly he runs away from his views that businesses can do what they want when the results don't work out quite the way he wants.
     
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    the company I work for stop its sponsorship as well - its on the list of companies that was previously listed. Our CEO was furious when he heard about the statements especially with our diverse employment base.
     
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    Damn Silver threw the hammer down hard!
     
  7. Kim

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    So you're saying he has no strong attachment to his supposed foundational beliefs? What a hypocrite. I'm pro business, and all for the NBA figuring out whether or not to keep Sterling based on their rules and the wishes of their group of owners. I'm completely fine with Sterling losing or not losing ownership in his team and being barred from the NBA. There's also a possibility that he could be reinstated down the line, as Ron Artest did after his ban.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Interesting subplot: Under NBA constitution, Sterling has 30 days to pay fine. If not, that in itself is grounds for his removal by board.</p>&mdash; Ken Berger (@KBergCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/statuses/461269578065395712">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  9. mtbrays

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    Do people really not understand the First Amendment? It protects you from government persecution and arrest due to speech, not public and private consequences from your speech. The NBA has a vested business interest in removing Sterling and Silver's actions today fall well within their charter.

    Sterling is not being persecuted for his speech, he is suffering the business consequences of a club that he was a member of. If the club deemed his actions harmful to their ability to do business (they were), they were well within their rights to vote to remove him.

    The people decrying Sterling's "free speech" here are often those who preach free markets in the D&D. The markets of public opinion, commercial sponsorships, employee cooperation (the players) and the league itself have spoken, rightfully so. Your cognitive dissonance is delicious.
     
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  10. noone

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    Isiah Thomas said Larry Bird was overrated because he is white. Charles Barkley has said plenty of inappropriate things as well. Should we ban people because of what they could of said in a private conversation. I don't like sterling but it's the nba.
     
  11. Major

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    Pretty much. His core view is supposedly that businesses should be allowed to discriminate as they choose - freedom for business. But then when businesses choose to discriminate against say, Donald Sterling, he thinks its wrong. And then he makes wild claims about things like precedents to set artificial demands for the business who he thinks should be able to do whatever it wants.
     
  12. magnetik

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    Outside of all the hoopla of what he said.. it all sounds all a bit fishy. The thing with Magic immediately coming out about buying the Clips right after it made the news. then finding out Magic knew this woman. Then top it all off with the lifetime ban and 2.5m fine. Has there ever been a higher fine in professional sports?
     
  13. JeffB

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    The rule is: we ban people who say and do things that harm our business. And players aren't owners. Different consequences for different decisions.

    Really easy to understand. If sponsors started pulling out of the NBA due to Barkley or Thomas, then you would see a similar response. Farrakhan has no more place as an NBA owner are Sterling.

    This is about more than, "oh, he was a little racist in private conversation."
     
  14. Major

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    If the NBA wanted to take action, they could. If they didn't, they don't. If you don't approve of the NBA's action, you can stop watching if you so choose. Everyone gets free choice to do what's in their best interests. Simple.

    Private or public conversation has nothing to do with anything. The statements became public, and therefore they affect the business interests of the NBA.

    No idea the relevance of this.
     
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    Magic didn't come out about buyng the Clips - he's said no such thing. And we didn't find out after the fact that Magic knew the woman. Magic was the person in her instagram photo that started all this weeks ago.
     
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  17. CometsWin

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    Too funny.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>REPORT: Netflix and Redbox have banned Donald Sterling from renting Django Unchained again

    &quot;He's seen it 273 times now. That's enough.&quot;</p>&mdash; NOT SportsCenter (@NOTSportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/statuses/460928452137598976">April 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  18. Major

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    Anonymous sources saying something is not the same as "Magic immediately coming out about buying the Clippers". He has not said anything of the sort.
     
  19. CometsWin

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    This is the kind of pressure Silver was under. Could you imagine a bunch of player boycotted playoff games? Silver had no choice here.

    NBPA thinks owner vote will be 29-0
    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ers-were-ready-boycott-donald-sterling-banned

    LOS ANGELES -- NBA players were prepared to boycott Tuesday night's playoff games if NBA commissioner Adam Silver did not ban Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling and force him to sell his team, National Basketball Players Association first vice president Roger Mason Jr. said.

    "I heard from our players and all of our players felt like boycotting the games tonight," Mason said. "We're talking about all NBA players. We're talking about the playoff games tonight."

    Mason said he spoke to player representatives from every team and they were on board with the decision to boycott Tuesday's games if they weren't satisfied with the commissioner's decision. The decision would have affected Tuesday's Game 5s between the Clippers and Golden State Warriors, the Chicago Bulls and Washington Wizards, and the Memphis Grizzlies and Oklahoma City Thunder.

    On Tuesday, Sterling was banned for life by the NBA in response to racist comments the league says he made in a recorded conversation. Silver also said he will try to force Sterling to sell the team. The owners have the authority, subject to three-quarters vote, to remove Sterling as an owner.

    "I reached out to other players around the league and made it clear the players were ready to boycott the games if this type of action was not something that Adam Silver felt was necessary," Mason said. "We're happy with the decision but we're not content yet. We want immediate action. We want a timetable from the owners as far as when this vote is going to happen."

    Mason said the players did not want to boycott games until they heard from the league but were prepared to take that drastic step if Sterling's punishment did not meet their demands.
     
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    No, he hasn't. Players are not evaluated the same way that owners are or will be. Sterling's ownership of the Clippers is part of the reason why Adam Silver reacted the way he did. He is not the first owner to face a significant suspension as a result of racially insensitive remarks, although he is the first NBA owner I'm aware of who's faced a punishment this severe.

    The only example I know of in which a player was suspended after having made controversial comments of the type made by Sterling happened more than fourteen years ago, when John Rocker was suspended by Major League Baseball after he was quoted several times in a Sports Illustrated article published shortly before Christmas.
     

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