1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

James Harden = Clutch Scorer?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by goose, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. goose

    goose Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2013
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    2
    So recently I've been seeing a lot of articles that refer to James as a legit go-to closer. Apparently he ranks in the top 3 in the league in points in the clutch?

    As a Rockets fan who's witnessed way too many games slip away in the clutch, lots of it probably due in part to Harden isolation, is this a change of the tide? Or am I just missing something...
     
  2. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,465
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    The Rockets have let teams back in the game in the 4th quarters but have only lost 3 games after leading going into the 4th. Harden is a big reason for that.
     
  3. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    Games slip away because you can't win every game.

    Trying to blame it on "Harden's isolation" is fairly silly.
     
  4. davidio840

    davidio840 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,026
    Likes Received:
    3,262
    Lulzzz stupid n00b
     
  5. KlutchQT

    KlutchQT Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Messages:
    9,156
    Likes Received:
    4,288
    Terrible first post.
     
  6. Little General

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    Messages:
    981
    Likes Received:
    23
  7. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    43,500
    Likes Received:
    29,549
    LMFAOOOOOO great first post, goose.
     
  8. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,192
    Likes Received:
    14,424
    They've lost what, 3 games when they went into the 4th quarter with a lead? I know one was at Dallas... can't think of the other 2.

    Yes, this team does have a propensity to lose leads. That's not all on Harden. He still remains this team's best offensive option in crunch time. He's really the only guy out there who has the ability to create his own shot, he's a great FT shooter, and he can hit an open 3 (although his % this year is not great... but not all of those 3's were open, or necessarily in the flow of the offense).
     
  9. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    619
    Sick of this nonsense about 'Harden-iso' blah blah.

    The fact of the matter is that Harden is our most talented scorer, he's a legit triple threat, can get to the line, bucket, shoot the ball and basically get his own shot at any time. People obviously aren't even watching games where we're down by 30-44 or whatever and then Harden just wills us back into it. He's in his second year as a starter and he's still ironing out things offensively.

    You NEED players that you can just give them the ball and let them go to work. That imo is what distinguishes a star from a superstar, someone who has that built in ability to take their man 1 one 1.
     
  10. rlivz

    rlivz Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    65
  11. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,157
    Likes Received:
    410
    Clutchfans the only place you can be a top 2 4th quarter scorer on a team in the 3 seed but still not be clutch
     
  12. dharocks

    dharocks Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Messages:
    9,032
    Likes Received:
    1,969
    I guess they need to find something new to complain about now that Harden's defense has improved to an acceptable level.
     
  13. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,409
    Likes Received:
    93
    great first post ya DUMB****T
     
  14. Little General

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    Messages:
    981
    Likes Received:
    23
    what are you showing? I know you can filter the stats and such on nba.com, but what are you filtering?
     
  15. Little General

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    Messages:
    981
    Likes Received:
    23
    C'mon guys, don't be too hard on the OP.
    I'm also wondering how our guys are doing in clutchtimes, but I'm too lazy right now to look it up.
     
  16. hltiki

    hltiki Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,372
    Likes Received:
    29
    Come clutch time, the ball should be trusted in the hands of Durant, Melo, LBJ, Irving, Lillard (yee), and yes, most definitely, James Harden.
     
  17. thesonofsam

    thesonofsam Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Messages:
    954
    Likes Received:
    407
    BOO THIS MAN.
     
  18. rlivz

    rlivz Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    65
    That's the top 3 players in the NBA in points per game within the last 5 minutes of a game that's within 5 points, which is what NBA.com's stats section defines as "Clutch time".
     
  19. rlivz

    rlivz Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    65
    It also disproves the theory that he just jacks up ISO 3s at the end of games, since he takes less than Lebron or Kyrie do.
     
  20. thebeardedwon

    thebeardedwon Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2013
    Messages:
    627
    Likes Received:
    25
    harden is super clutch
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now