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ClutchFans Game Thread: Grizzlies @ Rockets 1/24/2014

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. hatwin1976

    hatwin1976 Member

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    The reason why Lin is lack of confidence is because he seems does not know the reason why Mchale did not like him and apparently he does not know how to overcome that. There is no confidence in the Coach in him. Even sometime he plays better, he will get benched without any reason. The worrying in his mind is because he knows once he made a mistake, the bench is waiting for him. There is almost Zero tolerance on him from our coach.

     
  2. Andrew Wiggins

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    We went over this: 1) Attack and dish/penetrate and kick, 2) knock down open threes (space the floor), and 3) play D.

    Beverley and Lin are the same at spotting up from 3 (inconsistent), Lin is better at drive and dishing/creating offense, and Beverley is the better defender. The thing is the Rockets have a less turn over prone guard on the roster (Harden) who can drive and finish near the same rate as Lin, but turns the ball over less on his drives. This means 1 is not as important (especially in Morey and McHale's offense).

    We saw the improvements early on in the season. What happened to him after the injury? You can't blame all of it on a lack of minutes.
     
  3. hatwin1976

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    By saying this if you mean Mchale will bench who plays poor and reward who plays better, will you going to see Lin start next game?

    No. Lin starts only because Bev gets injured. There is no adjustment in Mchale's mind no matter who plays better or bad.
     
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    I can't believe there are people defending the final play call by saying that McHale would've been criticized either way whether it was Parsons or Harden who took the last shot. There is more to calling a play than pointing at someone and saying "Just get it to Parsons." The issue isn't who took the last shot, it's the absolute lack of any basic strategy or creativity in the use of sets, picks or screens to get the shooter the ball in a place where he had the highest chance of converting that attempt into points.

    It's clear that going forward ISO Harden is the most effective final possession that the Rockets can run -- but this is less an endorsement of Harden and more a condemnation of the coaching staff.

    Someone in another thread said that one play does not make a season. True, but the absolute lack of a play will definitely break one.
     
  5. JustAGuy

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    Who cares what all the posts would have been? To begin with, half the posts are about whether Lin or Beverley had a worse game.

    The question isn't whether people on an internet forum would complain, it is whether he chose a bad play. Even if it had worked it would have been a baffling decision.
     
  6. Andrew Wiggins

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    If you're an offensive role player? Yes. All-stars will always get the nod (along with two-way players like Parsons). It's the same reason Jones gets the nod over D-Mo. McHale thinks the gap between Jones' defense and rebounding is greater than the gap between their offense.

    McHale values defense and rebounding. Most NBA PGs are the focal point of their offense and they have the ball in their hands for the majority of the game (which requires a good defender). McHale fails to realize a good offense can also wear out the defense. If Lin started last night and attacked Conley early on then Conley would have been too tired to do his job against Beverley with fresh legs. McHale is just not a good coach. You have two capable PGs. Use them both, use them right.

    Another problem with McHale is he doesn't account for potential. You have to develop young players on the court. He coaches like he is scared of losing his job at the end of the season. I hope the Rockets don't re-sign him and find the right candidate for the job.
     
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    Memphis did really well in getting back on defense after a missed shot or turnover. Have to give them credit for stopping what we do best. Plus they killed us on 2nd chance points.

    If we would have hit at least half of those threes in the 1st half (1-14). We would have won that game with ease.
     
  8. Andrew Wiggins

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    The Rockets are in a 3 way tie at 17th in offensive rebounding. What happened to all of the long rebounds we were supposed to get by shooting the most threes? It's either a myth or our shooters aren't good shooters.

    The Rockets give up more offensive rebounds than they get. In fact, they are 3rd worst in the league in giving up offensive rebounds.
     
  9. WaitForIt

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    Exactly. It is what it is. Lin is redundant when we have Harden. At the same time, people always want Lin to do more, but don't understand that there are a limited number shots to go around. When Bev was out, they see Lin with 40 minutes and think he sucks because he has 10 points on like 5 shots. Well, Howard gets his, then Harden, then Parsons, then Lin/Casspi (heh!).
     
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    itshappening.gif

    the trade.
     
  11. Sports2012

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    You nailed it.
     
  12. Htownballer38

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    Formula for losing close games like this. We are also the worst free throw shooting team. Add in the many turnovers we comment.

    All that spells disaster in close games.
     
  13. Sports2012

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    You think Harden is going to help Gordon, or any one but himself, succeed?

    Who on this team has he helped in this 1.5 season since he joined the Rox?
     
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    if final plays are ugly as this might as well just iso harden
     
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    McHale is smart enough to know it doesn't matter what play you call at the end of the game. Either the ball goes in the basket or it doesn't, 50-50 chance either way. Best thing to do is to give it to whoever has the most energy, or whoever's made the most shots tonight.
     
  16. Sports2012

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    9. Tied the franchise record before Parsons broke it last night. Lin also scored 34 points against the Phillies that night with 12 assists.

    It was a deliberate cover up by the announcers. They had all the stats right in front of them so how could they forget.
     
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    No I remember that one. that was a line-drive shot from way deep behind the 3pt line, and he sunk it!

    I'm thinking of some time in 2012-13 when Parsons was in a similar situation as this game, given the green light to make a play for the game winner and he again couldn't get the ball past the 3-pt line or find anyone else an open shot. I remember thinking again that they should have found Harden for that shot.

    I'll go back and check the play-by-plays. I know it happened. It was either him or Budinger from 2011 and not getting the ball to Kyle or Scola.
     
  18. Sports2012

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    There could easily have been several better plays as proposed by posters here than the one executed.

    Another proof how bad McHale really is at critical time. Any one of the other 29 head coaches would have pulled this one through.
     
  19. rokit

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    and why would they do that?
     
  20. Sports2012

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    Jeremy don't ever let them have the chance to say that they were right about you. Don't let their problems become yours.
     

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