1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. Yao4REAL

    Yao4REAL Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    133
    How well Lin play defense sometimes depend on the teammates too. It's pick n roll that's hard to guard....it doesn't matter how great a defender you are....you can still get burned if your teammates are not helping you out.
     
  2. roxallways

    roxallways Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Messages:
    16,836
    Likes Received:
    9,384
    When the Rox are at full strength I still feel Lin best helps this team off the bench. Our bench recently has been pure ass, especially Garcia. The bench almost always loses the momentum lately. Lin when playing under control is a good spark off the bench.
     
  3. bws

    bws Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    22
    You make valid points but I was addressing a chorus of posters who went on and on and on about Lin, in his first game back, having 5 TOs and 2 assists and going on about his assists to TO ratio. That was so stupid and annoying especially because he scored 20 on 10 shots and got to the line for 10 shots where he made 7. Lin can pass the ball and guys have to make the shots after the pass for him to get an assists. He was out of sync in the first game back and instead of being understandable about him being rusty, they were just being a bunch of jerks about that one stat in the previous games. He shut them up tonight.
     
  4. devin23

    devin23 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,831
    Likes Received:
    21
    I disagree. He held calderon SCORELESS in their first matchup this season. Lin just has to be more disciplined as u say in D, and more consistent.
     
  5. Play07

    Play07 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    4,973
    Likes Received:
    244
    Lin has always been a decent defender for people who have been watching games since last year

    He has a problem with trying to cheat and help double team to get steals which sometimes leads to other players getting steps on him to hit 3s, when he's man on man he's pretty old and stays with his man
     
  6. Play07

    Play07 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2013
    Messages:
    4,973
    Likes Received:
    244
    Edit "good"
     
  7. beastlyball

    beastlyball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    22
    Jeremy is quick and smart enough to be a good defender. His problem has always been playing off his man and cheating the passing lane. He needs to spend some time with the assistant coaches and watch game films. He needs to learn who he can sag off of and who he needs to wear like a sweater.
     
  8. quatin

    quatin Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    427
    Likes Received:
    22
    If the problem is Beverley can't lead the 2nd unit, then swapping lin is just a bandaid solution. I think AB needs a chance to lead the 2nd unit. Then we need to trade asik and Beverley for some depth on our bench.
     
    1 person likes this.
  9. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    619
    Yep you're right it wasn't bad, should've held Parker to 1-11 instead of 3-11.

    :rolleyes:
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Dementium

    Dementium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    13
    He did the same thing to Lillard when they met earlier this year too. He isn't a lockdown defender but to say hes bad is a stretch. Most people just regurgitate stuff they hear from ESPN.
     
  11. aurocketfan

    aurocketfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2008
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    653
    Let's hope he's turned a corner, if he does, haters gonna eat crow.
     
  12. rubbertoe

    rubbertoe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    9
    Too late. They're already eating crow.

    Trade asik and bev and bring depth to the bench
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. zcarenow

    zcarenow Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2013
    Messages:
    2,232
    Likes Received:
    572
    Bev has a higher trade value at this point. I'm sure the Rockets could get a great deal for him and Asik.
     
    1 person likes this.
  14. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    When you say stupid **** like this it doesn't help your position and significantly dumbs down the forum.

    Defense is being in the right spots and contesting shots, not what the opposition's statline is on any particular night.
     
  15. rubbertoe

    rubbertoe Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    9
    Funny u mention that. Everyone says the same thing for lin, but they always bring in actual stats to prove otherwise. What goes around comes around. Fair is fair
     
  16. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    619
    In particular, the PnR defence was much better tonight. The bigs did a better job of allowing Lin to recover to Parker, its a TEAM effort to contain great players.

    Please.

    This goes both ways, people pull numbers about James Anderson getting a career high, use that to show how Lin is a horrifying defender when Lin was for the most part in good position and contested shots against a bigger man.

    You're the same poster who said it'd be a win-lose situation if the Rocket WON with Lin, because LOFS would be creaming their pants.

    Practically everyone is of the opinion that Lin played great defence tonight, he battled through screens,recovered well, and the bigs did a great job of helping him in defending Parker.

    Beverley gets his dues rightly so when he shuts down Lillard/Curry, but I'm sure you don't have any issue when clutch tweets statlines in support of Beverley (rightly so).

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Steph Curry with Beverley in the game: 0-5 from the field, 4 points, 4 turnovers. Two of those points came on *technical* free throws.</p>&mdash; ClutchFans (@clutchfans) <a href="https://twitter.com/clutchfans/statuses/409141028612874241">December 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    stop letting you're disdain for LOFs cloud your judgement of Lin. He played a very good defensive game tonight with the help of much better overall team defense. He was not "not bad"
     
  17. Chris Jent MVP

    Joined:
    May 27, 2011
    Messages:
    966
    Likes Received:
    48
    I've been saying this too. Asik + Bev trade is ideal for this team's growth.
     
  18. TheBigFive

    TheBigFive Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2013
    Messages:
    316
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trade Asik and Beverley for a starting PF. Play Brooks at backup and use Canaan as the third string PG.
     
    1 person likes this.
  19. glacier921

    glacier921 Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    22
    What stupid **** r u talking about. Those numbers look convincing to me. O right, nevermind. U prob can't read numbers.
     
  20. Rox7

    Rox7 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    7
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>LOVE watching <a href="https://twitter.com/JLin7">@JLin7</a> play...glad he's happy! When he's free stylin, dude balls: PERIOD! Haters=hate but cat can play! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Linsanity&amp;src=hash">#Linsanity</a> 2014</p>&mdash; Doc Rocket (@Thedocrocket) <a href="https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/statuses/416052267301617664">December 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now