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Jeremy Lin out 2 weeks with grade one knee sprain (UPDATE: Will return vs. Portland)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thesonofsam, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. Xfinity

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    The problem is Bev is not 100x better than Lin on defense. Plus when you make Bev a starter you diminish his defensive ability due to higher minutes.
     
  2. Whoopy

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    Fact 1 - We have the best Center in the NBA
    Fact 2 - We have the best SG in the NBA
    Fact 3 - We have the worst starting PG in the NBA
     
  3. langal

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    some stats from some other thread has Bev "locking down" opposing starting pgs at a 16/7 on 46% shooting while Bev is starting to shine offensively at 9/3.

    I think the guy is being sarcastic.
     
  4. larsv8

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    Beverley is a difference maker defensively. That is all that really matters.
     
  5. Whoopy

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    But he isn't. It's not not the other PGs are struggling against him. If anything opposing PGs are shooting at a pretty good clip against him.
     
  6. DL24

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    LOL...these bev posts are killing me
     
  7. yummyhawtsauce

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    Will be interesting to see how team develops without Lin when he gets traded soon.
     
  8. larsv8

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    That is not what defense is nor is that how you measure it. But if you really want to play that game, fine. The last two elite point guards Beverley opposed, he held them well below their usual level (Curry and Parker)

    Defense is having the ability to force your opponent into taking the shots you want them to take and not requiring multiple help defenders.
     
  9. aziankingz

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    Maybe Lin and Asik to the knicks for Artest, Shumpert, and a couple of bench players.
     
  10. ccrystal99

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    Just want to wish Jeremy be fully recovered on Thursday and have a good game, and everyone on the team have a good game too. Having a good wish makes me feel good. :)
     
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  11. zdrav

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    I have no problem with Bev being the starter if (A) that makes the team better and (B) Lin still gets to play 30+ min a game and let him play his style of game.

    I'm just suspicious that there were so many people ready to throw tomatoes at Lin for his ho-hum stats last year (15 PER, 13.4 PPG, etc.), yet these people seem to have absolutely no metric by which Beverley can fail. They just handwave that away by saying that he's there fore "defense" and "fit."

    Is there any quantifiable measure by which Beverley can lose his starting job to Lin? It seems that if the Rox D plays well, then it's b/c of Bev. But if the D plays horribly, that just justifies Bev's starting spot EVEN MORE b/c imagine how bad they'd be without a supposed lockdown D on the perimeter!

    It's a tautological mode of thinking that's immune to any statistical argument.

    Moreover, I really dislike hearing that Lin "lost his starting job." In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter, but it's a horrible injustice to a good player, and I suspect it's purposefully repeated by those who doubted him in the first place as a face-saving measure. Since they can't deny that Lin is NBA material, they console themselves by saying that he's not starter material, though they're fully aware that that's not necessarily a knock against his talent.
     
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  12. trock

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    no he's not. stop it.
     
  13. TheTruth1

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    This ^!!! Bev is getting it done against elite and scrubs alike.

    11/30 Parker 27 and 8 (Parker was 13 for 27 and held under 50% shooting. Pat makes the game winning tip in!!)
    12/6 Curry 5-14 22 pts 5 assists less than 50% FG(next!!)
     
  14. SHARKLIN-SOUP

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    That won't happen. Melo doesn't want him. Woodson doesn't want him
     
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    No, he has to start cause he can't run second unit.
     
  16. larsv8

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    The organization LOVES Beverley's game.

    If you think he is starting because he can't "run the second unit", I just feel bad for you.
     
  17. kmart9419

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    Lin will not resign with the team as a backup. No nba player wants to play off the bench nor do they want to be in the trade rumors year round. Lin deserves better.
     
  18. kmart9419

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    Pretty obvious the organization's intent was to replace Lin. Trade rumors in the summer was for real. Not being invited to recruit Howard and demotion to bench for a lesser talent says it all. The organization does not like lin's game is the more appropriate phrase.
     
  19. Whoopy

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    What is defense and how should we measure it then? In Parker's last 10 games his 27 pts and 8 assists against us was his highest in that stretch.
     
  20. Whoopy

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    Agree, they were hoping Bev could replace him. They'll probably bring Canaan up next.
     

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