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ESPN/David Thorpe: Houston is #5 at best, I don't love Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 22, 2013.

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  1. ooooaaaah!

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    Clippers #1, how exactly did they improve? Oh Doc Rivers....riiiiiiiiiiiight! Thorpe is an idiot. Otis should kick his ass for using his last name.
     
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  2. Rookie34

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    Meh ... whatever. :rolleyes:

    1. Thunder
    2. Rockets
    3. Spurs
    4. Clippers
    5. Grizzlies

    Everybody is soooo high on the Clippers because they have Doc ... don't see it happen with Blake -no jumpshot- Griffin & DeAndre -no jumpshot- Jordan in the post.
     
    #42 Rookie34, Aug 22, 2013
  3. AkeemTheDreem86

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    Banned.
     
    #43 AkeemTheDreem86, Aug 22, 2013
  4. Firebomb525

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    I don't understand how Memphis is better then any of those four teams. We saw them get torn apart by the. Spurs. And no offense to them, I love their squad, but they faced two crippled squads e route to the WCF. They may have added some 3 point shooting but they did not add a shot creating wing player. They need someone like Gay, albeit not as inefficient or Shotchucking. Gallinari would be a fine example.

    I feel Houston has a great shot against Miami if we face them in the Finals. SAS depending on if They come back just as strong.
     
    #44 Firebomb525, Aug 22, 2013
  5. jocar

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    he does have some black hole nostrils
     
    #45 jocar, Aug 22, 2013
  6. Firebomb525

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    Don't we have two big men with no jump shot? :p
     
    #46 Firebomb525, Aug 22, 2013
  7. Mitchmantc

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    but but but they got Doc Rivers, BJ Mullens, JJ Redick, & Jared Dudley.

    Seriously though, do these "analysts" expect Doc Rivers to teach the entire team to play defense? Because, as of now, I wouldn't call any of their guys defensive-minded. Well outside of Barnes but I refuse to give him props for anything.
     
    #47 Mitchmantc, Aug 22, 2013
  8. Louka

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    5 being the best, 1 being the worst?
     
    #48 Louka, Aug 22, 2013
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    But our non jumpshooting big men happen to be the two best defensive big men in the league.

    Theirs can't cover Shawn Bradley.
     
    #49 rockbox, Aug 22, 2013
  10. Garner

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    If not liking Houston means you rank them #5, then we are in a beautiful place gentlemen
     
    #50 Garner, Aug 22, 2013
  11. formido

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    I think Houston's Pythagorean wins last year would have had them in the 6th spot, so you're basically claiming Dwight Howard will have no effect.
     
    #51 formido, Aug 22, 2013
  12. tomato

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    You don't know this one?:

    "Another words... all of you"
     
    #52 tomato, Aug 22, 2013
  13. JayGoogle

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    #5 would be a minor disappointment for me.

    We have two superstars. We have the best Center in the NBA and we have arguably the 2nd best SG if not 3rd best SG.

    Home court should be the goal here.

    Not sure how Grizzlies jump up to #2 after making no improvements. Unlike the Clippers they do not have a young player with sky high potential to take them to that level to propel them there.
     
    #53 JayGoogle, Aug 22, 2013
  14. Firebomb525

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    We have the best center AND the best SG.

    I predict the 4th seed, but I would not be surprised if we get as high as 2 if we gel and all cylinders runnin'.
     
    #54 Firebomb525, Aug 22, 2013
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    The Grizzlies?!
     
    #55 AXG, Aug 22, 2013
  16. Carl Herrera

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    1. The ranking itself isn't necessarily ridiculous if it is a prediction of where teams may finish at the end of 82 games. I think the top 6 teams in the West (these five and the Warriors) are close and can finish in a number of orders depending on even minor variations in health and luck.

    2. What I don't agree with is his reasoning. For example: Dave Joerger and Nick Calathes are why Memphis gets 2nd place? Really? As for Houston, I don't think that McHale has to coach fast or that Dwight must play slow. The 12/13 HOU team did have the NBA's fastest pace, but the year before they had only the 11th fastest. The really high pace is a product of the roster more than McHale's preference. Dwight Howard's teams in 07/08 and 08/09 had the 9th and 12th fastest pace in the NBA so he can succeed in an above-average paced team. The later teams he was on had older teammates and guys who aren't used to pushing the pace so much.

    3. I would also note that Thorpe said that HOU would be 5th "AT BEST"-- meaning he thinks it may well be worse. I don't think HOU would fall outside of the top 6 barring a serious injury to one or more of its important guys.
     
    #56 Carl Herrera, Aug 22, 2013
  17. rocketblood713

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    4 or 5 sounds right to me soo I'll TAKE IT !
     
    #57 rocketblood713, Aug 22, 2013
  18. J.R.

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    Of course he'll have an effect and they'll very likely have more wins than last year. (You're right, the expected W-L for Houston was 50-32(6th seed).)

    55 wins (the roundabout # of wins I expect the Rockets to finish with) gets you the 6th seed last year. Maybe it's different this year. (I know, it's the wrong way to look at things - each year is different blah blah blah.)

    That said, sorry, I'm not just gonna stick the Rockets at the top (or 2nd) of the Western Conference when they've proven nothing.

    3rd seed is about as high as I could possibly put them. If things were to go south, ha, who knows.
     
    #58 J.R., Aug 22, 2013
  19. RocketFan

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    Thorpe, Grizzlies #2 REALLY? Someone is a homer. :rolleyes: If anything, GRIZZLIES are #5. Houston, at worst, is a top 4 team in the West... This is just a gut feeling but I believe that we ARE going to get home court advantage in the playoffs this year!
     
    #59 RocketFan, Aug 22, 2013
  20. pippendagimp

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    sperms are done....they won't get homecourt in the 1st round

    memphis? lol
     
    #60 pippendagimp, Aug 22, 2013
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