Zack Lowe Piece on Pelicans and why I think Asik to New Orleans is inevitable

He wouldn't be averaging that in Houston. He wouldn't get the shot attempts for the points, and with Howard/Asik in the paint, he wouldn't be asked to grab many rebounds either.

In fact, here was a Rockets player from last year who was 15.1/4.6 per 36 last season. With the exact TS% as Anderson. His name was Carlos Delfino. And he made $3mil.

 

His best season was 16 and 7.5. 7.5 is a pathetic number of rebounds for a power forward, and 16 points for a guy whose only skill is shooting? Kevin Martin is getting $7m a year and he's a 20 ppg scorer.

Yes one way players who are only good at shooting with his volume aren't worth more than 5 or 6m.

 

No show in the playoffs.

 

I think we should give our young power forwards a chance.

 

I'm not even sure what you're saying. If Anderson was here, Asik wouldn't be.

And do you seriously want to compare Anderson to Delfino?

Anderson career TS%: .566 (last year was actually a down year)
Delfino career TS%: .520

Anderson 2013 MPG: 30.9
Delfino 2013 MPG: 25.2

Anderson career PER: 18.3
Delfino career PER: 12.6

Anderson's age: 24
Delfino's age: 30

Those are all good reasons why Anderson makes more. With all that, I would say Delfino was worth well more than his contract last year. He had a career year.

Anderson actually had a down year relatively speaking. His shooting percentages were down and his rebounding numbers were a little down. When was he at his best? When playing next to Dwight Howard.

 

I wouldnt be surprised if Morey wanted EGO attached to Anderson

 

Dwight Howard's presence creates open catch and shoot situations, much like Lebron's does etc, once he was taken out of the ideal situation, his percentages dropped as they would be expected to.

That by its nature makes it easier shoot for every one, saying it's somehow unique to Anderson misses the mark by about the circumference of the earth.

As for Delfino, he got a 3yr 10m deal, you may think he's underpaid but that skill set really just isn't anywhere near as valuable as you think it is.

 

Kevin Martin averaged 18 and 3 last year per 36 minutes. Ryan Anderson averaged 19 and 7.5 per 36 in what was in every definable way a down year.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

I didn't say it was specific to Anderson. My point was exactly yours. Pairing him with Howard and two good passing guards will make his job incredibly easy. Defenses will be stretched to the limit.

No ones going to give a big deal to a soon to be 31 year old dude who's career says he's a slightly below average player. I said he was worth more than his contract last year based on his production last year, not that he was worth the MLE going forward.

 

What the hell are you talking about?

He scored more, took 1.5 extra fg attempts, averaged slightly lower %'s, how on earth was it a down year?

Kevin Martin meanwhile took 25% less shots because he was shunted back to a 3rd or 4th option, but had a TS over 60%

How does putting Anderson there stretch the floor any more than having Delfino or Garcia there? Are they going to leave them alone as some part of a "lol it's not Anderson" thing or something? What does he actually provide on either side of the court that a slightly smaller guy getting paid much less can provide?

 

His efficiencies were all down. His PER dropped 3 points, his TS% dropped 40 pts, his TRB% was down as well. My point being that we know he is capable of more than what he did last year, especially if paired with Harden/Howard.

Martin will likely average slightly more points per 36 (I keep using adjusted numbers because we're comparing players who don't play the same minutes per game) but much fewer RPG. Martin will make 7 million. I say Anderson is worth more. Saying he's worth 5-6 is asinine.

 

FWIW, I don't necessarily think Anderson is worth more than Asik. I just think it's a lot closer than people on here were making it out to be. The year before last, his PER was 21.2! I know PER isn't necessarily the end-all stat, but it tells you he's doing something right lol

 

Twice as many rebounds. Height to get shots over defense. Historically higher 3P%. Not old as dirt.

 

Despite being hindered with assets composed of two donkeys and a cup of coffee Morey returned Howard and The Beard. No way he gives up a REAL asset like Asik for anything less than a great deal. No. Way.

 

If he was good at getting shots over defense, he wouldn't have seen a meaningful decrease in his %s from having defenders not leaving him wide open, it's not down years that reduced their %'s post Dwight Orlando.....

As for rebounds, yes, clearly, the extra rebound or two Anderson would give you, would offset replacing 15-20 mins of Asik's defense and rebounding with a $2.5m a year guy......

You know we're trying to win right?

 

3P% fluctuates, you can't make definitive statements of his skill set based off one year. Just like Delfino. He shot well over his career mark last year. Will he do it next year? Who the hell knows..

Firstly, it's twice as many rebounds as Delfino or some equivalent would give you. Don't marginalize the difference to make your point seem more valid. I'll just point out one more time, Anderson's career PER is 18.3, including 2 years ago when it was 21.2. Care to guess how many current Rocket's have better?

Secondly, how would trading for, let's say Aldridge, fix our backup C problems? It wouldn't. If we move Asik we have to find a way to get a capable backup. I said that in my first post. If we traded Asik for Anderson and rolled with Greg Smith as our backup C, yeah, I would cringe.

Again, from my first post, I support the wait and see approach. Run with Asik, let Jones and Motie develop, and see what the trade market brings. My point on Anderson is that he's not the scrub people were describing him as. Not that he's inherently better than Asik.

 

I think this post is closest to my point of view at this point. I'm not sure Chuck Hayes is the person I'd want in the back-up defensive center role, however.

 

I meant as a backup PF as a defensive specialist. Not backup C.

 

Andersen averaged eight-plus rebounds per 36 playing alongside rebound-hog Howard as a stretch four. He was among the league leaders in offensive rebounds his last year in NO despite usually being camped out at the three point line on offense. There's nothing "pathetic" about his rebounding.

 

That's what I've been saying the last 2 pages. People make it out as if the only thing he does is shoot 3's. He's not an elite rebounder by any means, but he ain't no Patrick Patterson. That's for sure.