Jeremy Lin is a large reason of why we lost this series

I totally agree with you. This is absolutely fair criticism unlike this blame game of the loss.

 

Well, if people only mention the facts, sure, but it's not hard to notice that they go over the top. It's obvious that he played very badly besides game 2 first half.

 

Sigh......as much as I am not a big fan of seniority complex, thanks. But unfortunately, haters are just as active as before. Of course, they would never respond to posts that makes most sense and would cherry pick and target posters that are obvious not the most knowledgeable and then over-generalize and say that all Lin fans are dis or dat. Rats, low lives, scumbags, cowards. Why waste so much time of your sorry lives hating? It is not healthy when hate makes you feel good, turns you into ogres. How about supporting the players of the team rather than creating hate? Again, appreciate.

 

Haters would never think of something like that being possible, they can never truly rationally admit that something else other than their opinion might be happening with a reason.

 

So much deflection is going on here. Why does this always turn into a conversation about posters and their posting history?

Jeremy Lin had a bad series. This is about Jeremy Lin. Jeremy Lin had a bad series. This is about Jeremy Lin. Jeremy Lin had a bad series. This is about Jeremy Lin. Jeremy Lin had a bad series. This is about Jeremy Lin.

Please understand that to point out that Jeremy Lin had a bad series does not mean that you are a "hater". We don't need to sit here discussing philosophy, ethics, or human history. Just basketball. Jeremy Lin had a bad series.

 

Interesting, because it sounds like an excuse to me. I want Jeremy Lin to contribute to this team for the overall good, too. Carlos Delfino was able to contribute when he was battling through injury. Harden battled through bad moments with strep throat.

Lin has every right to sit out because of his injury, but no right to play so tentatively and badly on the court and then rationalize it away to "not being ready."

Are you going to talk to me about Jeremy Lin, or are you going to resort to your tactics of just talking about me, the poster?

 

I'd just like to point that when Jeremy Lin played in summer league this year, he was hesitating a lot in the games with other rookie and sophomores. I remember one play where Jeremy Lamb literally threw his hands up because Jeremy Lin kept hesitating and didn't pass him the ball.

 

Is that right?

You might want to take a look at our SL roster to jog your memory.
http://www.nba.com/summer-league/2012/teams/rockets/

 

Not true, if LeBron had an inconsistant season he didn't have a solid season, same goes for any superstar. Saying a first year starter in the league who was inconsistent had a solid season is totally OK.

Could it be that he is still rusty? Maybe he doesn't want to drive as that might re-injure himself? Perhaps he didn't want to make mistake after not playing for so long? Maybe he wanted to lay low so not to disrupt what was going well? He certainly didn't always play like this.

Sorry hater, unless CP3 decides to come here, it's very unlikely Lin is going anywhere.

 

WTF? I was quoting a post that does not talking about you. plz read that post first and then respond.

 

You entirely missed the point of that post. It was a reply to Your previous post that said...

Factually, you are wrong. Simple as that.

Lin's fast. The metrics and every measurement shows it. Deny it all you want, but you can only do so if you ignore the facts.

And yes, there is a correlation between foot speed and quickness with the ball. It's not 100%, but it's 100% guaranteed that if you're not fast without the ball you will NEVER be fast with the ball.

He shoots decently. He's not Steph Curry, but his shooting percentages for the season even after his horrible start were decent.

2012-13 44.1% FG, 33.9% 3pt, 78.5% FT

And his months after November (first month of the season) were good to very good in terms of shooting.

Month, FG%, 3pt%, FT%

December 48.9%, 29.2%, 84.1%
January 42.2%, 32.7%, 70.6%
February 43.8%, 42.4%, 83.8%
March 48.2%, 40.0%, 78.8%
April 44.0%, 36.4%, 78.9%

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/4299/jeremy-lin

So, he had a rough season start and improved to a decent to good shooting percentage from December onward.

He had a weak play off series. His first game was poor (as was the entire team). Game 2 he played decently in the first half, then was injured.

In game 3 he came back injured and was terrible. Then the coaching staff Forced him to sit in game 4 and 5 due to that injury. In other words, he was playing injured in game 3.

In game 6 he was supposed to be on very limited minutes as he was wearing a compression shirt for the injury, and he got forced onto the floor because Delfino was out, Beverley got into early foul trouble and McHale put him on the floor for 13 minutes.

In other words, the sample size is small, and the circumstances were unusual. Statistically, this is not meaningful to really determine how good or bad he will be in the long run.

At this point, all you can definitively say is he had a poor game 1 and poor play off series. It doesn't tell us anything about how good he would be in the play offs 100% healthy any more than game 1 defined the performance of the entire team for the following 5 games.

And it certainly doesn't tell us anything about how good he will eventually become as a player.

Lin isn't an all star. He has tons to work on. He was however hovering around average give or take as a starting PG. That's not great, it's not terrible. And it's certainly neither at $8.3M/year (average starting salary for starting PG's who are NOT on Rookie contracts).

That said, that he was average in his First year on the Rockets, his first full season starting, playing with a completely new Roster, on the youngest team in the NBA, learning a new Role with a ball dominant player in James Harden isn't too shabby.

I don't know how good Jeremy Lin will eventually be, but he certainly is good enough to keep playing as a starter in the NBA. And if he improves at all over the next 2 years, that $8.3M will start to look like a bargain.

As for the biggest part of why we lost game 6? Our shooting went cold, OKC heated up. It really isn't more complicated than that.

 

It is not that stupid actually. When isolated incidence happens, sure, don't wanna hear that. But when such a huge mob forms, something strange "might" be brewing somewhere. Look, if Lin has more haters than Royce White, Greg Smith and actually the entire team combined, it is perfectly normal to suspect some kind of foul play is in. If you don't want to be suspected plz refrain from doing this kind of fishy activities. Isn't there many other things in life you could do?

I don't know whether you are male or female but just because your spouse is asian doesn't mean you are completely non-racist. First of all, there is no proof that's true, secondly, there is no proof you don't like him/her because of money, good look, sex, femininity/marchoness etc; thirdly, you can't prove that you don't hate his/her parents to death. It's a moot point I'm sorry.

It's not an excuse, it's the phenomenon on this board that is creating suspicion. Nobody?????????? Maybe most people don't but NOBODY??? I'd like to hope so. Lin has been dealing with hate his whole public life.

Unfortunately I did read that the terms LOF/LOH actually came from YOF/YOH.

Yao and Lin are very different. Yao is so exotic; he's a giant and he's so mild. Lin is so normal, he is of normal height and has a swagger. An analogy could be Yao is like the Ethiopian and Kenyan runners while Lin is like Michael Johnson or Carl Lewis.

 

^^^^THIS^^^^ nice. repped. Have a great summer.

 

Jeremy Lin played all 82 games in the regular season. He played through various tweaks and minor injuries. While others on the teams missed games through injuries, including Harden, Parsons, Delfino etc.

Unfortunately the injury he received in game 1 was too much.

Jeremy has tremendous heart and he is a competitor. He probably had no business playing again in the series, but he made himself available despite that. It's up to the coaches and the trainers to decide whether or not he is going to be able to contribute. Because it's not a shock that after having worked his ass off to help the rocket's get into the playoffs, he's going to want to contribute as much as he can, even if he's hurt.

You want people to not talk about you, the poster. Then perhaps, you, the poster, should not be so blatant in ignoring the context of the situation. It's hard to see how any fair minded person would. Hence the label, hater. Comparing Harden's strep throat, to Jeremy not being able to use his right arm is a classic example of the kind of false equivalence and dishonesty that people have engaged in in their desperation to criticise Lin and it reveals their underlying prejudice.

 

Those numbers pretty much say everything there is to be said. Those are GREAT numbers for the past 3 months. And that's not a week or two, but 3 months.

It's obvious he was still hurt and hesitant to start the season. He clearly showed measurable improvement as the season went on.

Isn't that what we wanted to see? I think Lin hates it just as much as anyone here he got hurt again in the playoffs.

I think most people didn't want to believe his knee really bothered him as much as he did, and got criticized for his comments last year during the playoffs with the Knicks but it is evident he was still not there even to start off this past season.

Thankfully his chest contusion will not have the same effect this year. So if he can pick up where he left off to start off 2013, everyone here should be pretty excited.

 

a game and a half of healthy play is hardly the decider of whether to keep or ditch someone.

 

Greg Smith doesn't get paid like Lin nor people have that high of expectations for him. Royce White is hated even more than Lin. Never seen a "huge mob" form against Lin. Playing the race card simply because in your mind as a Lin fan you feel something brewing is just sad.

 

That sounds very subjective

Sorry for you...poor dude.

 

Just because there are only so few Linsanity games doesn't mean he should be benched frequently. There are only a few people who want Harden benched in favor of Lin, don't over-generalize.

You mean you puritanical rockets fans and us Lin and Rockets fans?

So if Joe D can't be THE focal part of the offense, the pistons need to trade him? Same with TP and the Spurs? Joe D AND Zeke can play together, TP AND Manu can play together. It could also be one passes, another finishes. We don't know for sure but it is certainly not a foregone conclusion.