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McHale "(Lin) rather have 29pts and 9 TOs, I tell him 'we wanna win'""

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lucky Charm, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. muas2010

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    Also, the Rockets are 20-10 when he has at least seven assists compared to 13-19 when he has six or fewer. Meaning if he plays well or gets playing time to get those numbers it's a good thing for the Rockets.
     
  2. CONAN 888

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    The other part of the story that some peeps are ignoring
     
  3. CONAN 888

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    True if your starting point guard is passsing the ball to the shooting guar the 1st 3 qtrs and the starting shooting guards stat line is 5-17. is it the starting point guard fault that he only has 3 assist through 3 qtrs? so your your starting point guard knows the starting shooting guard is not shooting an efficient clip and start to look for his own shot, which is what a starting point guard should do when he knows his starting shooting guard is off or not his normal effecient self, and shoots 50% from the field as a pg. Its the starting pg fault of course to mc fail logic. sit the starting point guard who is shooting 50% and bring in a point guard who scores 0 in 15 min straight. the other piece of info for the big picture is what was the stat line for shooting for the entire starting line up up until the end of the the 3rd qtr. But its still the starting point guards fault he only have 3 assist and he himself is shooting 50%. Some of these people are just unrealistic or just plain haters or dumb.
     
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    LOL @ Bev outplaying Lin right now.

    I love Bev and really appreciate the energy/hustle he brings onto the court every time he steps on. But that statement... :rolleyes:
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    You're right. . . .
     
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    Unbelievable. You joined the forum for just a few weeks and think you have the right to insult other members.
     
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    Lin fans criticize the coach, harden, etc. But LOFH do nothing but attack Lin fans and make stupid generalized remarks. Lets talk about the team and not each other.
     
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    Don't matter when you join a forum if you are about something. Far too often people seem determined to pick fights about players they like or dislike with a group they know will respond, it is foolishness and this forum shouldn't encourage that.
     
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    I think you are confused about what being aggressive means.
     
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    Mchale went for the home run by putting beverly in the whole 4th hehe
     
  11. raskol

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    Didn't you just say that you feel Lin looks to shoot more than pass (bogus by the way, imo), implying that he should shoot less and pass more. And didn't most of the posters on this site get on Lin for being too passive and not scoring enough?
     
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    What I saw last game was Lin looking to score more rather than get his team involved. He was score first, pass second.

    You can be aggressive as a passer. Being aggressive doesn't mean just looking to score. It means looking to penetrate and disrupt the defense. Lin did that really well in the first Dallas game. But this game, he played a lot differently.

    I think in ways he was more aggressive in the first Dallas game. Not because he scored more points but because he put his stamp on the game and really had Dallas confused on D.

    The last game he was different. He wasn't penetrating as much and when he did, didn't kick it out as much.

    He didn't play badly. But I think the 3 assists is reflective of that. SImply deferring and passing the ball early in the shot-clock isn't going to get you assists by the way. You have to work for them. You have break the D down. That's being aggressive.
     
  13. BayMind

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    Lin can't get assists when the team is putting him at SG a lot.

    If the team is going to put the ball in Harden and Parson's hands as poor-man's point guards during the game, then Lin should do what shooting guards do and SHOOT more when he gets the ball. If they don't like it, then switch the roles back and have Lin play PG and put Harden back in his natural position.
     
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    :grin:
     
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    There always a balance between shooting and passing. The two thing will help each other. If your shooting is good, the defenders have to respect you which gives you more space to create for others. On the other hand if your passing is so good, it will make the helpers to think twice to double you which give you more space to penetrate and finish around the rim. It's always easy to say than do. Since JLin is a young PG, it will take some time for him to perfect it. I do agree with other post that JLin is not playing the PG all the time, usually the first 6-7 minutes, it's it. The rest of the time he is not playing that role, so it's not fair to judge him, or ask him to be a PG.
     
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    We score the most points out of everyone and on top of that even have a top 10 half court offense according to Morey, so if all we're doing is putting the ball in Harden and Parson's hand and Lin is just playing SG a lot, then lets keep doing it because it's working.
     
  17. BayMind

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    When you play with the highest pace in the league you'll score a lot. It doesn't mean it's an efficient offense. In fact the advanced stats show the team is far from an efficient offense. It is good though. In term of wins and offense, the Rockets have won 2/3 of games where Lin has 3+ turnovers or 14+ shots, so Lin being more aggressive is actually associated with more winning.
     
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    I guess we, rockets fans, need to apologize for not criticizing our team enough.
     
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    another twisting of his points. Maybe his point was at least we are talking about the team positively or negatively, all you do is talk to LOFs. Maybe you should go try talking about the team instead of looking to engage a LOF. You have more posts about Lin and LOFs than probably most LOFs.
     
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    The advanced stats that Morey uses shows that we are a top 10 halfcourt offense, meaning not counting fastbreaks. Also, those "if..." stats aren't reliable, you don't know what else happened those games. If you are adamant about them though, lets take a look at this: when Lin has more than 8 assist we have a 3:1 w/l ratio, when Harden has more than 8 assist we have a 4.5:1 w/l. So the team does better when Harden is doing the playmaker role.
     

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