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Amare Stoudemire an All-Star?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coolpet, Dec 31, 2002.

  1. DavidS

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    KENYON is bad-ass!

    Even Kobe and McGrady wont mess w/him!
     
  2. DavidS

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    that idiot failed every 4 out of 7 classes, haha. wonder if he got his diploma
     
  4. BigM

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    kenyon is right now better than amare but probably not this time next season. and for someone so fierce martin also rebounds like a little girl.

    one friggin week does not make amare an all-star. that's the same hype that people accuse yao of getting. however they also forget that early on 75% of that was negative attention towards him. both these guys will be regular all-stars but as far as talent, leadership, and basketball iq, yao takes him easy.
     
  5. DavidS

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    MAN!

    Dallas and Detroit have the most BBS!

    The LA, Vancouver and NY follow...
     
  6. haven

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    Stoudamire has been an above average player. Neither his #'s no his role in his team support an other contention. It's impressive that he's done such straight out o HS. But he doesn't deserve false plaudits.
     
  7. DavidS

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    Thank you!

    Yep, KM doesn't have the athletic and scoring
    ability that Amare does. But he makes up in
    effort.

    The difference between Yao and Amare is that Yao
    get's 6 more less minutes per game, shoots
    80% from the FT line (vs 66%), has more blocks PPG,
    he can PASS and make his teammates better,
    and is scoring more PPG than AS. Plus, Yao
    can shoot the 3, and Amare can't.

    Amare is a scoring PF, in the purest form
    of the word. Yao is a basketball player!

    Amare is riding his athletic ability right now.
    But as Yao has more time in the NBA, his
    athletic ability will get better.

    Amare reminds me a cross between Darvin Hamm
    and Shawn Kemp.
     
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    Sorry...

    FOUR less minutes...I meant.

    Not "Six more less (?)..." :D
     
  9. YaoROY

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    You guys are talking about Amare Stoudemire being an all-star. Are you kidding me? Even Marion might not be an all-star this year, and Marion is MUCH better than Stoudemire right now. This is not going to happen. Stoudemire is going to the rookie game, no more no less.
     
  10. youAndMe

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    I agree 100% on what you said about "Yao is a basketball player.". But sadly, in reality, scoring is all that matters. When MJ scored few points in some games, he was instantly described as "non-factor". MJ's presence was more than just scoring. But people care, I don't think so. That's the reason my favorite team for championship this year is the Kings. They play team basketball. The scoring was very evenly distributed among players. And they have three international players that have excellent fundamentals. Let's put it this way. The Kings have more "good basketball players" than any other team in the league. Mavericks too, but Mark Cuban disgusts me.

    I have a friend from Argentina. He told me that in European league, they have a measurement system to gauge performance of players. If they misse one shot, the system deducts points from the players. And there are others, I just forgot. But, in general, the system penalizes the players for their mistakes, turnovers, etc. So if Kobe scored 31 points and made 8 out of 22 shots , it would a bad performance night in the Eurpean system.
     
  11. coolpet

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    you are talking about fantasy basketball :D
     
  12. DavidS

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    Jordan entered the league as a scorer. He left a great "basketball player."

    When, I say "basketball player," I don't mean that he doesn't score a lot.
    It means that he (that player) understands all facets of the game;
    scoring, rebounding, passing, freethrows...the intangibles of the game
    that normally don't show up on the stat board.

    What level of a "basketball player" you are...well, that depends on the player.

    Some players end up only being specialist. But they forget about the other
    aspects of the game.

    I'm sure you can name a few players that can dunk, but can't shoot.
    Or, they can shoot, but can't hit freethrows (go figure), who can score,
    but can't play a lick of defense.

    Yao is a well rounded "basketball player."

    Later in his career he will be able to score 50 points, but he wont have too
    if he has players around him to help him out (TEAM).

    By the way, "scoring is all that matters" to ESPN. Not to the purist.
    So, I disagree w/you that "scoring is all that matters."

    The Kings have players that can put big numers up. So do the Mavs.
    Dirk can score 40 by himself. So, can Finley. Nash has a lot of games
    around 30. These "basketball players" can score, but they also have the
    know-how to share the ball and play as a team. That's valuble in a player
    if you can find it.

    Yao...
     
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    I think Stoudemire was the fourth option until recently. Now he's an All-Star candidate?

    Firestone has a new tire that doesn't explode. Get them while they're hot.
     
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    Today's game: Sixers-Suns.

    Amare scores 11 points and 4 rebounds in 1st Quarter. Yao clearly has a very strong competitor now.
     
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    no...not really. Yao is still rookie of the year...

    BUT MAN...Amare SToudamire can be an All Star...but not Rookie of the Year. Too late..heh. He's GOOD.

    By the way, my man Kenny Thomas is doing all right...:)
     
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    He reminds me of a baby Shaq, a great dunker! Did anyone notice that he held the ball to the chest while he drove to the basket. In my books I would say its a TRAVEL and a turnover!
     
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    going up with the likes of coleman he better put up those kinds of numbers.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if he was saying that cuz he hasn't gotten over his first impression of Yao when he crossed him up in Phoenix... :rolleyes:

    And in my opinion, Yao is still a rung or two above Stoudemire. But I still don't get why he's 20. How did changing high schools affect that? Did he not get credit he should have from different schools? Did it make it harder for him to concentrate... or something... and make him fail a year or two?
     
  19. slinslin

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    His troubled family background is the reason he came out a year later out of highschool. It's not really easy to concentrate on school when your father die's on drugs, your mother is stealing and in jail just like your big brother.

    He had his hands full staying clean and out of this whole mess.

    Intelligence, btw is not measured by the grades you receive in highschool.
     
  20. CY02

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    This Stoudemire guy, the more I watched him, I don't think he's really 20 years old. His face, his body, he looked like 30 at least. :eek: Did they check his age? :p
     

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