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Yao is the king of turnover

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wildhorse, Dec 24, 2002.

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  1. wildhorse

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    I live in Shanghai and watched Yao's game over 5 years. In my impression, Yao's turnover was always more than his teammate. Yao often have funny mispass when he was a member of Shanghai Sharks. Yao seems to be difficult to quit his bad habit. :p
     
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    Before anyone thinks of bashing, I want to add to this by saying that Yao is averaging 4 TO's a game in the past 7 games. That would lead the league I think.
     
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    I guess Tim Duncan and Kobe have more TOs.
    Looking at Tim's stat, you'll often see about 8
    TOs in a game.



     
  4. Glyyde

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    that's just shows one thing..... when u have the ball in your hand more than anyone else, u ought to get more TO's.....

    Lots of ppl here like to bash Francis for turning it over too many times..... and they will say run the offense through Yao and he will make the BEST decision...... so what will u guys say bout Yao now? 4 to's means he is making the best decision?

    I am not trying to bash Yao or Francis here..... just trying to clear things up that TO's comes when u have the ball in ur hand the majority of time..... and it also depends on whether ur teamates can catch ur pass or not..... like Clutch recaps for the Utah game, at least 3 or 4 TO's of Francis can be attributed to the butterfingers of his teamates.......
     
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    You are right. Kobe is the 2nd in TOs/game. He is still
    an excellent player. However, I do hope Steve and
    Yao to cut their TOs.

     
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    TOs are usually caused by miscommunication. Right now the players are still figuring out each other, so the high TO number is not surprising. TO number should drop significantly next year for both Yao and Francis.
     
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    Tied with Stevie for second. Big Dog is worse.
     
  8. Sane

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    Duncan and Kobe are LIGHT YEARS ahead of Yao Ming. Duncan and Kobe have the ball in their hands much more than Yao. Kobe's averaging around 7 assists a game for the season, how about Yao during this 7 game stretch?

    I think Yao Ming's passing is getting too talked up. If he lets it come to him, he's a great passer. But when people tell him to do it, it's less effective.

    Leave Yao Ming alone. Don't teach him anything about basketball, because, more than likely, he knows more about it than you do. Heck, he probably understands the game better than some coaches.

    The only help Yao Ming needs from the Rockets staff is to build him up better physically. More toned lower body, more upper body STRENGTH.

    I'm not blaming everything on Yao. I'm just saying that he's averaging a high number of TO's for what he does, and maybe he should learn to grab the ball harder and make sure it's always safe. Some reviewing of tapes should fix this in no time.
     
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    Sane, perhaps you missed the Rockets-Spurs game when Yao schooled Duncan and Robinson combined...
     
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    Sane, don't mean to be rude. You should get your facts straight before posting numbers here. Yao has 62 TOs this season, average 2.3 a game. He is ranked in 51th in TO per game in NBA. So I suggest that you go dig among 50 NBA players that have worse TOs than Yao to find out who lead the leauge in TO in the last 7 games.
     
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    in case, anybody forgot. yao's only a rookie. most people don't remember this, but in shaq's rookie season, he led the league in turnovers. i read this in an article where shaq's former coach with the orlando magic said so and he said that yao's passing is already way more developed than shaq's passing was.
     
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    Trade Steve and Yao:D
     
  13. Glyyde

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    lancet, read the post properly.... he is talking bout the last 7 games..... the lead in TO is about the last 7 games.... not throughout the season....... just to make it clear....

    and one more thing.... u can school one player once, but dun be so happy bout it yet.... u need a few more games to prove that u are capable of schooling the same player in every game.... one game is not the conclusion.....
     
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    Please do not overlook all of the nice passes that Yao Ming made to cutters going to the basket that were fumbled away that were not Yao Mings fault. Unfortunately Yao Ming was still credited for the turnover when it was not his fault.
     
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    Jason Kidd is always one of the league leaders in TO's. Why? Because he's always looking to pass.

    Why am I using Kidd as an example?

    Because its common knowledge that people who pass a lot have a lot of Turnovers - especially if some of the people who they pass to dont have good hands.

    Also, a lot of his TO's happen when someone leaves their man and comes around the corner to steal the ball away. Just like a pick situation where you yell "Pick!", the person whose defender left has to warn him about that. As communication increases, the Turnovers will start to be lessened.
     
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    lots of his TO due to bad passing, why? coz he is thinking ahead of everybody else. He try to get them the ball in the best possible position, ALWAYS, while his teamates obviously didn't expect this all the time, hence the TO. once the chemistry build up it will be ok.
     
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    Not all the turnovers came from passing. Block shots can be counted as TO, right?!
     
  18. Glyyde

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    I think that only happens in NBA Live......
     
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    A blocked shot is a missed FGA
     
  20. basketball

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    I think a lot of his turnovers are due to inexperience and miscommunication with his teammates. With more time together and as he got used to playing in the NBA the turnovers will go down. With him handling the ball more, turnovers will come. When you are being double and triple team, you will commit turnovers as all those hands are swapping at the ball. And when you make a pass and your teammate doesn't react to it (lack of familiarity) then it will be a turnover. So, right now even the turnovers number is a little bit high, I doubt it will be a problem in the long run. And at least his turnovers are not "dumb" turnovers.
     

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