Yeah I really like DeRozan potential, I think he'd be a top 5 pick in this years draft. With that said I don't know how high Toronto is on Williams. So Idk how willing they are to doing that trade.
Varejao is much better than Jordan Hill, but I agree that this board overrates him a bit. I'd hate giving up our #14 for him, though I think he'd be better than most players (Biyombo?) we could get there.. perhaps I'm just in love with the "promise" of someone new.
Higher salaries draw young athletes away from other sports. Glen Davis could probably play in the NFL, but comparing the average NBA salary and length of career vs the NFL suggests it would be unwise for him to do so. Athletes can't just switch sports at the drop of a hat when they've spent their entire lives training for a different one, but many parents push their kids at a young age towards certain sports based on career potential. If the popularity of volleyball and the NBA were switched today, you'd probably see a huge talent drain in the NBA in the next 10-15 years and a huge talent gain in professional volleyball. This obviously doesn't apply to a five year timespan in European basketball, but there's no denying that they are getting better. Five years ago, it was kind of a joke that a team like CSKA could beat a team like the Raptors or Clippers in preseason. Now, the Euro champs are beating the two-time champion Lakers, with the Lakers giving full effort in a close forth quarter.
IDK... I just don't like him on a young team that is re-building. His the type of guy that you add, when your roster is ready compete. I think there is better talent then him at 14th(Motiejunas, Harris, Thompson) and at 23 (Vucevic, Honeycutt, Selby). As far as Jordan Hill, I want to see him at least one year under McHale and see if he improves or at least has increase in productivity.
Varejao is extremely underated. Chuck Hayes clone with more size...a true difference maker defensively. He would be excellent on the Rockets.
#23+Thabeet Varejao is honestly not worth much more than that to this team. He's 29 years old and has never averaged double digits in either points or rebounds and only gets about a block per game. I think he would make the Rockets better, but they can't afford to give up anything of value to get him that could potentially be used in a deal to land a big time player.
He takes charges like Hayes, but that's about it. This is an insult to Hayes skill level.. Hayes can handle the ball, as well as pass from the high post. Not to mention his one heck of a defender in isolation in the post, and has even become a decent free throw shooter. Varejao lacks in all of these departments. Varejao, is a blue collar, dirty, grind it out type of player. He takes charges and works hard to deny post entry passes and defend the post. But he lacks any type of skill, and his whole game is based on energy. His a guy you add once your competing for the whole damn thing. Not when your trying to construct a core... His also not someone who you trade a 1st round pick for IMHO...
Well i like Jimmer Fredette and Marshon Brooks. Both look good imo. Both can attack the basket which i was watching in the Youtube videos. Fredette reminds me of Mark Price imo. Guy was hitting shots with defenses collapsed all over him. And so was Marshon Brooks. This tells me they're scorers in clutch situations. Fredette also seems to run the offense much better than Aaron Brooks. And Marshon attacks like Kobe Bryant 1 on 5 like. I can see him getting to line a lot. He has a very quick, high release with his 7'1 wing span. Overall i like both players. Now if Houston can trade up for Biyombo i'm also down with this. This guy is another Serge Ibaka with Shawn Kemp athleticism and his 7'7 wing span. I seen many videos, but these 3 impress me the most. I seen guys hit shots, but these guys were hitting shots with defenses collapsed all over them. Brooks has a Kobe like game to him on the offensive end. Also i believe Cleveland will draft Kanter #1 and trade him to Washington. I really hope so, so that Minnesota will have to draft and trade Williams or Irving since they already have Rubio and Beasley.
Because you have zero knowledge of anything basketball related outside of the NBA, and probably outside of the Houston Rockets. Instead of having maybe 2-3 big players, top Euroleague clubs now have 8-12 big players.
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Why do you always feel the need to insult someone for any argument? You must be really insecure. I'm not denying Euroleague is getting better but to say that they are 3 times better than freaking 5 years ago just because they spend more money is just absurd. Where do these extra good players come from? Did all these European players have a meeting and decide "oh well, I wasn't really trying because they're only paying me a million euros but since they can now spend 3 million I'll get better!" The whole notion is ludicrous. 5 years! Maybe over the next 30 years they will get better with the bigger budget and I do see that as almost a certainty that they will catch up to the NBA with the money being thrown around the world becoming smaller with scouting but we're talking about 5 years, man. Be reasonable. At least admit you were exaggerating. [OHMSS]You know nothing about basketball because I don't agree with you.[/OHMSS]
Your comments prove you know nothing about basketball other than the NBA. What you just said in this post proves it.
Well then why don't you actually provide a counter point for once in your miserable life instead of dismissing it? Back up what you are saying. I have yet to see one valid point you've made in your existence on this forum. Why have you never defended yourself for saying Jan Vesley is more athletic than Griffin? Any time you're confronted with anything you can't answer you just ignore it or just say "you know nothing about basketball". It's like arguing with an autistic person.
Does pretentiousness have to ooze out of everything you type? It's becoming clear you're just keen on securing the title of "Town Hipster." If all you discuss on a forum dedicated to Rockets basketball is Euroleague basketball, then why the hell do you even bother posting here? If you're really so fed up with the "ignorance" of the American NBA fan, then why don't you simply stop posting here, and start posting elsewhere, somewhere like, I don't know, a ****ing forum dedicated to Euroleague discussion. Or perhaps a forum dedicated to your favorite irrelevant European team? I'm not even sure if you're a Rockets fan or not, as the only mention of them I've seen of them out of you was something to the tune of, "The Rockets would lose 99 out of 100 games to Barcelona."
I really like Jon Leuer with the 38th pick. At 6'11.5 he has tremendous size for a 4, and also measured with very impressive 36.5 inch vertical. His a 4, that can stretch the floor with his 3 point shooting, and can also rebound the ball. I see him in the same mold as a Channing Frye type... <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_i9jylKet8E?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> I think he'd be a steal with the 38th overall pick... ---- Here's also some Pre-Draft workout films on Vucevic, Selby, Lee, Burks and K. Thompson... Spoiler <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hcgpIuD_JyQ?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Spoiler <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3VnSDwlzdpY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Spoiler <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bjFn5vujrxc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Spoiler <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-5Uy22sVg-g?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Spoiler <iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Vg0QLr9BABg?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
OHMSSS - KevC's point makes total sense to anyone that is bothered to read it and be rationale about it.....and the point made doesn't even have anything to do with understanding anything about basketball. I appreciate your input and insights from your knowledge of the eurogame...and it has no doubt educated me alot more on the subject. But if you can't bother responding to a valid point with decency then just don't bother. Its like the other day NBA.com released an article comparing Jan Vesely to none other than AK....but knowing your view on the matter and having heard enough from you about how anyone who makes that comparison clearly doesn't know anything I didn't bother sharing it. I love your knowledge of the eurogame...but at other times I just cringe when opening this thread.