Haven't seen him play. But at 6'2 role player with shooting skills, am I looking at Luther Head v2.0?
Jimmer isnt athletic enough to play PG in the NBA...but he's also not tall enough to play SG in the NBA. He has no real position. His potential in the NBA is a solid role player off the bench. Do you spend a lottery pick on a bench player? Would probably be best to aim higher and go for potential.
Have you been watching Terry killing it in the playoffs this year? You wouldn't spend a lottery pick on a guy that can potentially be like Terry? In this draft, the boom:bust ratio is leaning heavily toward "bust" when you consider those "potential" players. I usually lean towards those guys too, but in this particular draft, I'd rather get the guys with the high floors.
Yuck. First, Terry is quicker than Jimmer and he's over 30!!! Second, No. I'd rather take my shot at a high ceiling Big man that could solve the problems we have than someone you think compares to an off the bench scorer.
jopatmc - No...I absolutely do NOT agree with this. BPA is a good general theme. And it has it's useful purpose. But right now...for the Rockets...BPA is the wrong methodology. The Rockets need a starting caliber Center. (And wishing that Dwight Howard forces a SnT deal to HOU next summer is a pipe dream). Everything...and I mean EVERYthing...that the Rockets do should be toward the end result of a Center (or at least a PF) with an overwhelming skill set on both sides of the ball. Unless Fredette is part of a deal where the Rockets swap picks (up or down) and move players to go after a low post presence...all else is background noise. I personally just don't see Freddete as part of any Rockets' Road Map back to the Finals. But I DO see Fredette as $Ball selection. And that in itself is bothersome.
Look at JJ Barea. that guy always kills us.. But he's a role player to provide instant offense and change of pace off the bench. If he's available I wouldnt mind using the pick on Jimmer. At the 14th pick there are no gurantees and there is no one else that really stands out this year.
Wait, is this the same logic that said: "Let's draft Aaron Brooks, you 4 year senior you, to back up Rafer Alston and Mike James and Steve Francis and Luther Head." and "Let's draft Carl Landry, you 3 year junior you, to back up Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola and Steve Novak." and "Let's draft Chase Budinger, you 3 year junior you, to back up Shane Battier and Trevor Ariza and Tracy Mcgrady." and "Let's draft Patrick Patterson, you 3 year junior who already graduated smarty pants so you are really a senior you, to back up Luis Scola and Chuck Hayes and Jordan Hill and Jared Jefferies." Wait. Because if that is the logic we are talking about, if THAT is this so called "B($Ball)PA instead of need"... well, hell... SIGN ME UP.
Do you think they've been doing everything possible to acquire this type of big man? I do. Why did Morey hold out on the Knicks for the inclusion of Hill and the 2012 draft pick? It's not like he hasn't tried to make deals for this big man with an overwhelming skill set on both sides of the ball. We had that big man until he got hurt and Morey's been scrambling ever since. And the way to acquire that awesome big man (I guess you're asking for Howard or possibly Bynum or maybe Nene fits the bill), is to keep acquiring players who are good players and future draft picks until you've got enough talent and assets to get the trade done. The other way to acquire one is by getting lucky. We can tank to kingdom come, not be competitive, empty out the arena, and go to the lottery, cross our fingers and hope we get the right ping pong ball combination and then hope after we get the right ping pong ball combination that we hit the next lottery which is picking the player that will turn into that awesome big man you are seeking. I prefer Morey's way.
I would say Redick is one of the 10 best players in his draft class. Lowry, Rondo, Gay, Barganni, Aldridge, and Millsap are all easily above Reddick. Tyrus Thomas, Sefalosha, and Shannon Brown are maybes to more or less the same talent as Redick. So at worst, he's 10th. So, I'd say it was an alright pick in the end. Given that this draft is weaker, if Jimmer is at 14, I'd say you take him. But I doubt he falls that far because this draft sucks.
I may not agree with everything in your post, but sadly, I think you got this mostly right. What a terrible draft class, 2006. There were maybe 11-12 players in the draft that year that have made any kind of name for themselves today. Saying Reddick is a top 10 player from that draft is fair, albeit debatable. But I think top 6-8 of that draft is a bit of a stretch, though again debatable. In Draft Order (excluding obviously worse players): LaMarcus Aldridge Tyrus Thomas Brandon Roy Randy Foye Rudy Gay Thabo Sefolosha Ronnie Brewer Rajon Rondo Kyle Lowry Shannon Brown Jordan Farmar Paul Millsap I wonder if 2011 will go down as being just as bad. My money is on yes. That draft was only 6 players deep. This one looks to be 5-7 players deep. As far as Jimmer goes, I haven't seen a second of him playing. But if he is as you described, being able to hit a shot from anywhere on the court AND with the ability to hit shots with tight defenses collapsed in on him, then I'd say he probably does have a good shot at having a solid NBA career. Maybe a great 6th man on a good team.
Yall are crazy for not picking Jimmer. if he falls to 14. That is ridiculously low for this guy. This dude is going to be a freakin beast in the pros.
This dude was making college teams his @@@@@. What is constantly overlooked is the heart of a champion, and jimmer has that heart more than anyone in this draft. Hell if yall don't want him ship him to the grizzlies I'm sure we'll find a spot for him.