This needs to happen now! Rockets can't make any moves until this one is in the books. It also makes those picks from the Knicks a lot kore enticing to some teams.
Note that I based that post on if Melo absolutely refuses to sign an extension with any team other than the Knicks. That Nets trade does NOT happen if Melo refuses an extension with them. Ah, but there's a distinction. There are two different arguments in play here: (1) That the combined value of the four (4) first round picks is too much (when combined with the other assets New Jersey is giving up) to pay for Melo; and (2) That trading away four (4) first round picks would have a materially adverse impact on the Nets, long term. In my initial "justification" post, I explicitly DISagreed with the "they didn't give up much to get them" justification, although I did (for illustration purposes only) show what, in fact, the Nets gave up to get those picks. I guess it was just my hubris in showing off my knowledge of those prior trades by New Jersey. Sorry for that and for any confusion it caused. That said, I think we simply disagree on Argument #1 above. I am in the camp of those who think that all of those picks are worth trading if it is absolutely necessary to trade all four picks in order to get a franchise player. Where this may have gotten more confusing is that my last post on this issue was specifically addressing Argument #2 above. The fact is, the Nets will still own ALL of their own future picks (except their 2011 first rounder), so if Melo doesn't help them win games next year, they will not be stuck in "Ted Stepien hell" for the next decade. They did not give up FUTURE assets to get those picks, which actually IS a relevant issue on this deal. Again, sorry for any confusion. In retrospect, my prior posts do seem a bit contradictory. But that was not my intention.
Melo is being interviewed by the media on NBA TV. Key points of the interview Melo has not met with the Nets owner and has not set up any meetings. "Ready for this to be over" - Guess what Melo you're the one holding all of this up. "Thoughts are in the back of my head" "I am open to anything" Nothing nobody knows.
Melo - " I want something to be on the table by this weekend" "I don't want it to get done on the 11th hour of the trade deadline"
Their meeting will probably take place in a dark dingy bar outside of LA tonight and involve a suitcase full of money and escorts. Melo will either be a Net tomorrow or suddenly be unavailable for the all-star game.
I agree that the picks are worth trading to get Carmelo Anthony. However, they are outbidding themselves. New York cannot bid close to as much as New Jersey. Fields/Gallo/Chandler/1st is not close to Favors/high lottery pick/low lottery pick/mid 1st rounder/late 1st rounder/Harris-Billups swap. Take out one of the 1st rounders, and New Jersey easily has the best deal.
LOL, hes a funny guy. Any ways I hope this happens, just so that it is over seriously. I get tired of hearing of this everyday and it is holding up the entire NBA.
Ended it with saying 'Time is ticking and time is money". He has a meeting with his agent. So yeah no doubt he is going with the money.
ESPN's Ric Bucher told that Anthony would sign the extension with New Jersey if the Knicks can't make a deal. ----- "I don't know nothing about any meeting or anything." - Melo "I don't know where that came from. There's no meeting that's been set." "There's some things that I'm still thinking about in the back of my head. I'm ready for this whole thing to be over with." "I really don't know where that's at. I'm pretty sure the Nuggets are talking with NJ. ... I haven't been presented with any deals from... On signing extension with NJ: "that's something I'm going to have to think about, deeply." "There's a lot of things I have to think about -- what's the future with the Denver Nuggets." On possibly re-signing with Denver: "I've told you guys this since day one, that's still an option." (Hey so did Chris Bosh in Toronto! ) "Do I feel like (Nuggets) want me anymore? I can't answer that question." "Any team that the Denver Nuggets want to send me to, I would love to sit down with that team and find out what the future is." Preference? "I can't really sit here and say I want to go here or I want to go there." "I'm mindboggled right now." Surprise team? "I don't know man. I really don't know Meeting with Knicks? "The day is still youg. I haven't checked my text messages. ... my son got my phone Whoever I deal with, I just want to have a face to face meeting with." Losing $ as free agent? "That's why I'm about to go meet with Billy Hunter. I'm about to go to that meeting right now." "The Nuggets know everything that I'm thinking. You gotta talk to them about that." "I don't think that's the only two teams that I can sit hear and say I definitely want to be on those two teams or nowhere else." re: Ne ... SpearsNBAYahoo: Melo says he's hopeful but not confident his situation will be worked out this weekend. No NY or NJ meeting RIGHT now. Says no preference
It's a ton of studio gangstas in this thread lying about how they are "tired" of the Melo **** and that it's getting old...ha yeah, thats why you commented. Anyway...IF this is the trade between NJ/DEN, then I say BOTH teams win. Denver gets their coveted abundance of picks. New Jersey gets their 'guy', making them now an awesome attraction to future free agents.
Love this! This is Melo and Denver teaming up, telling the Knicks to roll over and give in. It's now time for the Knicks to pay for Melo, big time.
It cracks me up how certain fans and media play up the value of NBA first round picks to where it seems like they're equivalent with NFL first rounders. If you're picking out of the lottery in the NBA first round, odds are you're looking at a fringe role player. If you're picking in the last 5-10 of the first round, a case can be made that those picks have negative value (Lakers pick in this deal, for example), because the odds of success with the pick are minimal but the contract is guaranteed. And if you're trading a star (see Gasol to Lakers deal) to the other team, odds are that the value of their future picks will go down further. Unless you have a high degree of confidence in a lottery selection (potentially a high one, at that), merely acquiring first-round picks isn't all that significant. For those of you oogling at the deal from Denver's perspective, hypothetically replace those four picks with Damion James, Craig Brackins, Avery Bradley and Quincy Pondexter (four names I took at random from the last half of last year's first round). Doesn't seem like much more than a lot of mediocrity. For some reason people seem to always get up in arms about these magical first-round draft picks, when in the NBA that designation doesn't necessarily mean a lot.
