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How good would the Lakers have been if they had Marc Gasol instead of Pau?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    People have talked endlessly about how the Lakers stole Pau, and they have a point, but Marc Gasol (who was a part of the trade for his brother) has really blossomed last year after a very good solid rookie season. If you ask the Grizz whether they'd do switch the brothers back right now, they'd probably say no, given the age of each of them.

    What about the Lakers side of the equation, then? They did great with Pau and was struggling before the trade. But what if they never made the trade and had Marc join them instead for the last couple of years? (Assuming they kept Kobe, which was not a certainty given how restless he was before the Pau trade). Pau can play with Bynum better, but given how often Bynum was injured, Marc would not have been bad for them, either.
     
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  2. YaoZow

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    That's a scary thought. The Lakers would be even better than they are now if they didn't get Gasol.

    Marc Gasol can play Power Forward and Center these days since he lost all that weight. He's also a better defender than his brother.

    I thing Marc put up something like 15ppg last year while his brother put up 17ppg?

    Look at that price difference...Marc $3 million and Pau $18 million.

    If they had Marc and didn't pay Pau, the Lakers would have $18 million to pay another Superstar. Melo? Amare?

    Frontline:

    Bynum, Marc Gasol,Odom, Artest
    Melo or Amare
    + Kobe

    That's a crazy good deep team.

    Thank god those fools took Pau instead of keeping Marc Gasol, it ate up all their extra money.
     
  3. SunsRocketsfan

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    LOL WTF?? NOOO
    This is a stupid thread.. if the Lakers never traded for Pau they would have two less rings right now. THey are not even on close to be on the same level. One is a allstar and one is a roll player.

    And ur stats cant be more off..
    Marc's avg last year 8 pts 7 rebs
    Pau's avg last year 18 pts 11 rebs

    THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!

    Also they would not be able to sign a 18 million dollar player if they did not have Gasol. That's not how it works there is something called a salary cap.
     
  4. SunsRocketsfan

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    Also how in the world are they fools? Last I checked they won back to back championships.

    Also Pau is just as deserving of a 18million dollar contract as Amare or Bosh. He might even be better than the other two.

    I dont like Pau or the Lakers but you have to be reasonable here.
     
  5. Noob Cake

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    Pau Gasol is possibly the best PF in the game.....and Lakers got him for free lol
     
  6. goodbug

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    If they didn't trade Kwame for Gasol they'd stil trade Kwame for someone in deadline, many bad teams are willing to part with their star to dump the salaries.

     
  7. goodbug

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    Pau wasn't even a top 5 PF before the trade, Kobe made him better.

     
  8. Rover16

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    Kobe couldn't win in the playoffs post shaq until gasol. No gasol and no 2 rings, simple as that.
     
  9. Al Capone

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    How good would the lakers be if they never signed gasol period?


    Oh thats right, weve seen that trainwreck.
     
  10. goodbug

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    Kobe had Kwame, Walton, Smush as starters, none of them can even make bench in a bad team now.

    Give me a guy like Mo Williams and he's in the finals.

     
  11. rockets934life

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    Huge Marc Gasol fan but Pau is still the better player and without him they don't make three straight finals or win back to back titles. Marc would barely be hitting his stride and Kobe is probably on another team. Also have my doubts how Marc and Bynum would play together although Bynum seems to be just as injury prone as Yao so that might be a moot point.
     
  12. Easy

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    Do you seriously believe that Marc is as good as Pau? Marc MIGHT get to Pau's level in a few years. By then Kobe would be hanging up his sneakers. Without Pau, Phil Jackson wouldn't be talking about the 4th 3-peat.
     
  13. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Correction: before the trade Pau wasn't even recognized as a top 5 PF. Given the weak teams he led into the playoffs during seasons when the West was really good, he should have been recognized as a top 5 PF already. I mean, he won 50 games with Battier as his second best player!
     
  14. Ziggy

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    What if they traded Bynum for Gasol and had 2 Gasols. It'd be like a fleet of ostriches out there. Nobody can beat that many ostriches.
     
  15. Aleron

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    Talent wise, they'd probably be better now, but the issue is Marc is too young to have had any real overlap with Kobe's career (maybe last and this year and thats it), which is what they needed.
     
  16. supdudes

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    Good point with the crap players. As for Mo...ionno. Also, don't forget they had Odum as well. from 05-08 it was clear the Kobe was the best player, but his team faltering time after time makes people tend to forget how amazing he was during those years. Good thing Pau came along.

    ..and o ya...LOL KWAM BROWN LOLOLOOL


    ;)
     
  17. saleem

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    Not as good as with Pau. Pau is an all-star. Marc would have helped more defensively,but it might not have been good enough to win another championship. Pau helped overcome Odom's inconsistencies.
     
  18. goodbug

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    Marc isn't better than Pau, makes no mistake. But Marc is much cheaper than Pau. And Kwame won't just get expired. Depends on what they could trade for Kwame's expiring contract, they may end up with a better team.

    Think about it, if they gave up Bynum rather than Marc at that time. Lakers will be paying 10M less now with a more reliable bigman.

     
  19. roslolian

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    LOL Kobe-only-Fan at its finest. How come Artest didn't become a top 5 sf last year when he played with Kobe then?

    Gasol's production on Memphis and on the Lakers are pretty much identitical. The only difference is now Gasol has a better team and an elite coach. Having other people who know what they're doing and can cover for your own weaknesses makes your performance look much better even if you're playing at the same level.
     
  20. goodbug

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    I wouldn't call 5% difference in fg% identical.


     

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