What were some of the offers we passed on for the #1 or 15? I'm super happy with this draft but . .. just curious. Rocket River
I wouldn't trade this draft for anything, but one thing I want to know is ... was Eddy Curry ever really on the table? I'm guessing he wasn't.
Clutch/Doc Rocket/Oeilpierre, Could you guys please fill us in on some of the offers that were made for the #1? Pretty please? Pretty, pretty please? Thanks Tariq
Yeah Sam Smith of the Chicago Tribune reported that the week before the draft Krause may had been interested in getting Ming because he offered Fizer and the #2 to the Rockets for the #1. I know Krause saw him at the Chicago workout few months ago but he did see Ming 2 years ago in China I believe.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/story?id=1399527 Knicks blockbuster may be the tip of iceberg By Chad Ford ESPN.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To get the latest ESPN Insider information on NBA trade rumors, click here There was talk. A pop and then fizz. More talk and a pack of Tums. And then more talk. That's how the trade business works. A lot of talk, little action. Five minutes before New York was to make its selection at No. 7 all the talk stopped. Antonio McDyess, who had hemmed and hawed for the last 24 hours about being traded to the Knicks, finally gave the team the thumbs up they were looking for. He agreed to waive an opt-out clause in his contract, guaranteeing that he'll remain a Knick for at least the next two seasons. The Knicks turned around and sent Marcus Camby, Mark Jackson and Nene Hilario (No. 7) to the Nuggets for McDyess and the 25th pick that turned into Frank Williams. It was the type of blockbuster trade that Knicks president Scott Layden needed to sidestep the firing squad that was taking aim in the Garden. The Knicks had the highest payroll in the league, but were still mired in the lottery. Layden's logic was simple: What's better than a young Antonio McDyess? Answer: The real Antonio McDyess. Layden's ability to pull off a draft-day miracle, just as we were ready to write off the Knicks for years to come, is just one move in a series of steps that will be played out the next month as the NBA silly season rears its head. If Scott Layden has his way, the Knicks aren't done. They spent most of Wednesday also trying to land disgruntled Cavs point guard Andre Miller. At several points during the day it looked as if the Knicks had pulled off that deal as well. But the Cavs remained torn between adding McDyess to their team or going younger. When the deal fell through, the Knicks decided to take McDyess and run. Now, expect the Knicks to change their focus to Dallas. The Mavs are offering Nick Van Exel in return for Kurt Thomas and Charlie Ward. Van Exel may be tough to deal with, but he's the dynamic point guard they've been looking for. The Cavs' drafting of Dajuan Wagner almost assures that Miller should keep his bags packed, but GM Jim Paxson sounded like he was actually considering keeping Miller around. "We'll feel very comfortable playing Andre and Dajuan together," Paxson said in prepared statement. C'mon. The Cavs were just seconds away from trading Miller to the Clippers Tuesday night. According to the L.A. Times, after negotiating most of the day, the Cavaliers called the Clipps just as they were turning in their No. 8 pick -- offering to make a deal for Lamar Odom if the Clippers would draft Caron Butler for them and give them No. 12. However, the Clippers had already phoned in their selection to the league -- Chris Wilcox -- making it official. The Clippers then spent the next 10 minutes calling the Suns, who were drafting No. 9, and the Heat, drafting No. 10, trying to trade Wilcox for either pick so they could take Butler.The Suns had already turned in their pick, high school star Amare Stoudemire, and the Heat weren't passing on Butler. The Clippers will keep talking to the Cavs, but they also are talking to the Hornets again. According to the Times, they also had a deal in place that would have sent Baron Davis to L.A. for Odom, Chris Wilcox and Melvin Ely, but owner Donald Sterling nixed it late Wednesday night. The relocation of the Hornets from Charlotte to New Orleans was the last straw for Davis. His agent, Jerome Staley, has basically told the Hornets they better trade him or lose him. There were other draft-day deals gone bad that may resurface again this summer. The Wizards had a deal in place with the Magic that would've sent Jahidi White and the No. 11 to Orlando for Mike Miller. However, the deal was contingent on Amare Stoudemire being there when the Wizards drafted. When he was drafted by the Magic, they pulled out of the trade. Given that the Magic really addressed none of their needs in the draft, you can bet that they'll continue to shop Miller in an effort to land a starting point guard (GM John Gabriel wants Darrell Armstrong coming off the bench next season) and a big man or two. The Grizzlies and Heat had worked out a trade Wednesday night that would've sent Stromile Swift and Brevin Knight to Miami in return for the No. 10 pick. However, Miami quickly pulled out of the deal when Pat Riley realized that Caron Butler would fall to him. Expect Memphis GM Jerry West to do whatever it takes to push the lackadaisical Swift out of the picture. The drafting of Jay Williams by the Bulls could spell the end of the Jamal Crawford experiment in Chicago. The Wizards have been the most active in trying to get Crawford, but the T-Wolves, Sonics, Pistons, Nuggets, and the Magic are all interested. Bulls GM Jerry Krause says he's not interested in trading Crawford, but with the addition of Roger Mason in the second round, the bell tolls for thee, Jamal. A few other underachieving teams will try to shake things up. The Bucks were dangling Glenn Robinson before the draft in an effort to free up more playing time for Tim Thomas. And the Timberwolves have a serious point guard situation to resolve. With Terrell Brandon recovering from knee surgery and Chauncey Billups testing the free agent waters, the Wolves have shopped Wally Szczerbiak around in search of a top-flight point guard. Keith Van Horn looked like he had worn out his welcome with the Nets at the end of the season. The Sixers have put a for sale sign around Dikembe Mutombo's neck. Eric Snow is on the block as well. The Pacers are hoping someone will take Austin Croshere off their hands. The Warriors will give away Danny Fortson. The Nuggets are open to offers for James Posey. The Blazers would like to package Dale Davis with Bonzi Wells in a sign-and-trade. The Raptors are leery of giving Keon Clark a big contract, and may be willing to broker a sign-and-trade. And you just can't forget the obligatory Vin Baker and Penny Hardaway rumors that are just part of the NBA's summer fabric. Right now it's all talk. But given the torrid trade pace that's already established ... we'd better strap in. I don't know about our offers, but the Clips really blew it - they could've had the perfect floor leader in Andre Miller or Baron Davis.
that's what I'm saying. I just came back from the swimming pool with every intention of starting an "Insiders, Come Clean?" thread. so, Insiders, come clean? why not tell us what you know? what were the most tempting offers for Yao? what was the most serious discussion had involving Kevin Garnett? what do we know and now know about TroyBaros' insider info? I've been waiting for this day, the 27th, for 6 weeks just because I thought we might finally get to hear what the real skinny was. hook a brother up!
The Newark Star Ledger had an article that had some of the stuff that Layden was trying to do with us. Heres an excerpt from the article... It was a few days ago that Scott Layden, in a moment of inflated hope, sensed some anxiety on the part of the Houston Rockets to handle the foreign intrigue known as Yao Ming. So the dutiful, ever-sanguine Knicks president put in another call to the Rockets, trying one last time to pry the No. 1 pick in tonight's NBA Draft from their clutches with another trade permutation that he thought might appeal to Houston management. The Rockets' response wasn't surprising, but it illustrated precisely what Layden is up against as he tries to rebuild his tattered franchise. The names of his four best players came up during the conversation. The Rockets, he learned, believe they have a better shooting guard, the youthful Cuttino Mobley, than the two on the Knicks (Latrell Sprewell and Allan Houston). The Rockets, he realized, think their power forward named Thomas (Kenny) is going to be much better than the Knicks' power forward named Thomas (Kurt), and they had two embarrassingly one-sided matchups from last season to prove it. And the Rockets, he discovered, no longer have any interest whatsoever in Marcus Camby, the Knicks center they had pursued throughout the 1999-2000 season -- and even then, Houston was only offering one of the league's great underachievers, Kelvin Cato, in return. By the time Layden hung up, he came to the realization that not even the Rockets -- a team bad enough to be awarded the No. 1 pick -- had any use for any of his four best players.
