Yet more ethnic unrest in China with at least 100 dead

That's just funny Sammy.

Whether ETIM is affiliated with Al Qaeda really doesn't matter, especially since the former, in its many forms, far pre-dated Al Qaeda. They just want greater autonomy? Your history in that area is clearly lacking. So let me give you a refresher.

Back in the 50's, Mao actually was taking a rather soft line regarding the Uighur situation, especially in light of the KMT treatment. Of course, one can't really blame the KMT, considering ETM (notice the difference in name) was seeking independence with Soviet support.

So essentially what Mao did is send in a bunch of CCP members with minimal security forces. Guess what, it didn't work. If they send 100 propagandists, in about couple of weeks, about 100 of them would be dead.

In comes Wang Zhen. One of Mao's (and Deng's) favourites. One helluva loudmouth. One heck of an infantry commander. Needless to say, Wang Zhen took a hardline approach. His actions actually shocked Mao (I'll leave you to google the details). Brutally effective though. So now terrorist activities is far more subdued.

That pretty much blows away your "they just want greater autonomy" line. They don't demand independence because they are no longer in a position to do so.

When dealing with terrorist, one often have to have a firm hand.

 

You mean yourself, Sammy, Ari, came out hand in hand cheering and blaming Chinese or Chinese government whenever any other ethnic group killed Han Chinese? KingCheetah's Nazi pictures are missing from this thread, and maybe Ottomatto is on vacation. What a gang! LOL.

Oh, before I forget, the newly added most consistently one-sided and super active mod Rocket2K, will always side with you as well. Enjoy the party, and cheer for lost Chinese lives, be it kids or women, one less Chinese, one step closer to a better "democratic" and "free" world.

 

real_egal,

The only people here cheering for "lost Chinese lives" are the ones hoping the government uses a "firm hand" in dealing with minority population uprisings, or cheering on armed mobs running unchecked through the streets "fighting back," seeking vengeance . I find your insecurity on the subject both paranoid and illuminating.

 

By your logic, the allied force in WWII are among those cheering for Jew termination. After all, the bombing of Germany was pretty heavy-handed.

Your retroactive illumination on this subject is welcome, though.

 

^^^
Your analogy seems muddled. Are you actually equating the overwhelming majority Chinese Han population with concentration camp Jews? Wow.

I guess Godwin's law doesn't translate across cultures.

 

If you have any clue on the differences in PRC's policies dealing with criminals of ethnic minorities and the ones of Han ethnicity, you wouldn't have made ignorant post like the one above.

 

To further illuminate me retroactively, though: in your tortured analogy (or is that torture analogy),

Jews = Han, yes?

 

Whether "Jews = Han" is beside the point, the ridiculousness in your proposition is that support of firmness in dealing with the perpetrators (Jew-terminating Nazi Germany or Han-killing Uyghur thugs) amounts to cheering for the loss of the victims.

BTW, do you have any clue on PRC's minority policies? Yes or no?

 

You called me paranoid by intentionally lying and misquoting others' post?

MFW's quote is "dealing with TERRORISM" you need a firm hand, and you quoted firm hand, and then switch it to minority population uprisings?! In your dictionary, terrorism against Chinese equals minority population uprisings? It's not surprised, because that's standard position from that gang i just mentioned. Are you a newly recruited member?

 

Actually kebabs, honeydews, knives, and grapes are quite relevant to the topic when it comes to Xinjiang. That's assuming you know something about the region, though.

 

The real problem is those minority ethnic group live in distant area are poor, high brith rate, kids dont study hard, and they are muslim, have oil underneath...

If they are not muslim, they maybe melt with majority.
If they dont have oil, who cares, they may kill each other like Africans.

Now, Uighuran, espiecal those extremist, wanna indepenance and live on oil,
their dream is driven away Han-Chinese, and kill all Hui-Chinese (another muslim group live there, has bloodshed feud with Uighran for thousands year.)

Uncle Sam (not innocent ordinary American) actually glad to see these killing, cozs it brings trouble to China, that is why mainstream media give so little coverage, you dont wanna your freedom fighter looks look a terrorist, don't you? Uncle Sam.

 

Uhhh... Excuse you?

Their not melting with the majority has nothing to do with them being Muslim. It has to do with their culture. Islam is a religion. Their religion does not allow them to engage in any unsolicited violence. Therefore the logical conclusion is that some other factor is making them behave this way.

I'm not about to speculate about the actions of everyone involved but you attributing this violence to Islam is disgusting and cowardly.

 

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Poor Migrants Describe Grief From China’s Strife

URUMQI, China — As young Uighurs rampaged through the streets of this western regional capital on Sunday, Zhang Aiying rushed home and stashed her fruit cart away, safe from the mob. But there was no sign of her son, who had ventured back into the chaos to retrieve another of the family’s carts.

“Call him on his cellphone,” Ms. Zhang, 46, recalled shouting to a cousin. “Tell him we want him home. We don’t need him to go back.”

Her son, Lu Huakun, did not answer the call. Three hours later, after the screaming had died down, Ms. Zhang went out into the street. A dozen bodies were strewn about. She found her son, his head covered with blood, his left arm nearly severed into three pieces.

The killing of Mr. Lu, 25, was a ruinous end to the journey of a family that had fled their poor farming village in central China more than a decade ago to forge a new life here in China’s remote desert region.

Mr. Lu and his parents are typical of the many Han migrants who, at the encouragement of the Chinese government, have settled among the Muslim Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking race that is the largest ethnic group in oil-rich region of Xinjiang. The influx of Han, the dominant ethnic group in China, has transformed Xinjiang: the percentage of Han in the population was 40 percent in 2000, up from 6 percent in 1949.

“We wanted to do business,” Lu Sifeng, 47, the father, said Tuesday, his eyes glistening with tears as he sat smoking on his bed. “There was a calling by the government to develop the west. This place would be nothing without the Han.”

But migration has fueled ethnic tensions, as Uighurs complain about the loss of jobs, the proliferation of Han-owned businesses and the disintegration of their own culture.

On Sunday, Mr. Lu was among at least 156 people killed in the deadliest ethnic violence in China in decades. Raging Uighurs battled security forces and attacked Han civilians across Urumqi.

The riot had evolved from a protest march held by more than 1,000 Uighurs to demand that the government investigate an earlier brawl between Han and Uighurs in southern China.

The government, apparently hoping to tamp down racial violence, has not released a breakdown of the ethnicities of the 156 dead. But Mr. Lu’s father said that of more than 100 photographs of bodies that he looked through at a police station to identify his son, the vast majority were Han Chinese, most with their heads cut or smashed.

Each victim had a number. His son was 51.

“Of course, in recent days, we’ve been angry toward the Uighur,” Mr. Lu said. “And of course we’re scared of them.”

The family came from Zhoukou, in Henan Province, a poor part of central China. They grew wheat, corn and soybeans on a tiny plot of land. There was little money in it, and the parents heard of a way out: friends from Henan had gone to distant Xinjiang and were making enough money to support relatives back home.

It was the late 1990s, and the central government had announced a push to develop the west, promising that investment would soon flow to those long-neglected lands.

Mr. Lu and Ms. Zhang went first. The younger Mr. Lu followed after graduating from junior high school.

Others from Henan were selling fruit and vegetables, so the Lu family bought wooden fruit carts. They got a spot at an open-air market off Dawan North Road, on the border between Han and Uighur neighborhoods. Every day, they pushed their carts to work at 8 a.m. and did not shut down until midnight. In a good month, the family earned $300.

“He wasn’t so satisfied with life here,” Ms. Zhang said of her son. “He was so tired here, and there wasn’t so much money.”

Not a day went by that they did not miss their hometown, Ms. Zhang said. But until this past winter, they had never returned for a visit. They wanted to save the cost of train tickets.

They live in bare concrete rooms on the ground floor of an apartment block opposite the market. The kitchen has a makeshift two-burner stove a few feet from the parents’ bed. Most of their neighbors are fellow settlers from Henan and Sichuan.

At the market, about three-quarters of the 200 vendors are from those two provinces, the parents said. A handful of Uighurs sold fruit or raw mutton.

“Relations with the Uighurs were pretty good,” Ms. Zhang said. “There was a mutton stall beside the cart where my son sold fruit. On nights when my son didn’t want to bring his fruit home, he would ask the Uighur neighbor to keep the fruit inside his stall.”

This past winter, the family took the nearly 40-hour train ride home for the first time. The parents had arranged for Mr. Lu to marry a 23-year-old woman from home. The couple had photographs taken: Mr. Lu in a white turtleneck lying beside his bride-to-be in front of a beach backdrop; the smiling couple sitting on a white bench, each holding teddy bears in their laps.

The family returned to Xinjiang after scheduling the wedding for the end of this year.

On Sunday, as on any other day, Ms. Zhang, her son and a young cousin pushed four carts to the market. Mr. Lu’s father had gone to another province to buy fruit wholesale.

Abruptly at 8 p.m., the manager of the market told people to shut down. Hours earlier, more Uighurs had begun marching through the streets to protest government discrimination. Street battles erupted when riot police officers armed with tear gas and batons tried to disperse the crowd.

The first wave of the rioters arrived minutes later, metal rods and knives in hand. The younger Mr. Lu dashed home first. Ms. Zhang followed. When she got home, she found that he had gone out again to rescue another cart.

She cried for three hours until she dared go out to look for him.

“I thought, if I don’t find a body, then maybe he’s in hiding and still alive,” she said. “But I quickly found the body.”

Security forces arrived at 1 a.m. to collect the bodies. On Wednesday, Mr. Lu’s father identified his son from a photograph at a police station.

“After we cremate the body, we’ll go home with the ashes,” Ms. Zhang said.

The father stared at cigarette butts strewn across the floor. “We’ll never come back,” he said.

 

Time for Taiwan to step in and lead by example.

 

Additional updates in the situation in that region of China:

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Only if we can see more honest corrections like this one (in a blog though) from mainstream media, then they would be more credible to me when it's covering international affairs.

Link

 

there 55 minorities in China, only two of them got that monk lying around the world and that old god damned woman living in USA and having an office for doing terrorism.

Only these two minorities are feeling the need of killing Chinese.

 

lol, that's a false picture. here is the original one:



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Just like their Tibetan colleagues, lousy job.

 

Furious Chinese protesters topple high-rise apartment building

 

Found an interesting discussion on the unrest:

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