Why does everyone believe Ron Artest has good defense (now)?

Did you watch the Blazers and Lakers series? Who guarded Roy and Kobe most of the time?

 

I don't wanna bad mouth Ron just because dude signed with Lakers. He's a cool dude, and wing defence wise no one is better than him in this league, including Battier.

 

It's a good piece to throw in here. Hate to refer people to the Lakers' numbers, and yes Ariza was the guy who had to guard all the best scorers, but he's really at the bottom of their roster.

 

what is your point.

IIRC, Both Roy and Kobe's ppg against Batteir was higher than their seasonal ppg avg.

Battier played smartly, but couldn't keep Roy and Kobe under their seasonal avg.

 

Ron will hurt the lakers probably more on offense than defense. Ron when we asked him to play within our offense didn't move the ball too well and he displayed kind of a low B Bal IQ by committing wild careless turnovers. Also within the triangle is going to be intersting too see how ron is going to react when he won't see touches maybe 10 straight trips down the floor. His spot up three point shooting was eradict probabaly his best shots were teh ones he took going left fading away and off balanced.



Tell u the truth Ron may come off the bench. I can't see ron as a ball mover with that triangle offense or a slasher and cutter. Ron needs the ball to be effective and there ain't enough basketball to go around in LA. The lakers are in for a rude awakening and it ain't about inch for inch pound for pound who's better between ron and Trevor. The key is who fits better within the TEAM concepts and in my view trevor meshed in better. Luke walton since he knows the offense will start the game. Ron YES played in the triangle his rookie season but not with kobe bryant,pau gasol,andrew bynum etc.....

 

That Battier is a better defender, which is why Adelman put him on the other team's best player.

Just about every time Artest was on those guys, he got burned badly. Bringing up ppg is pointless. It's one stat that ignores percentages. Plus, Artest didn't keep them from scoring either. Overall, Battier did a much better job in forcing them into low percentage shots and keeping them away from the rim.

Battier pretty much came into the game every time Kobe did, unless he was in foul trouble.

 

so what, it is the results that count, not the coach's decision.

the results were

both Roy and Kobe score higher (than their respective seasonal avg) against Battier.

like most Rox fans, u seem to be infatuated by some of the good plays Batteir made; conveniently let that overshadow the fact the Battier could not hold either Roy nor Kobe to seasonal avg.

 

perhaps the decision was more swayed by the fact that Battier is not tall, athletic nor strong enough to both the freak Odom.

 

ron has lost a step and he gambles a little to much but at the end of the day hes a top 5 defender its really based on his defensive talent more than anything else cuz hes not a sound disciplined defender here are the top 5 defenders in order 1.kevin garnett 2.dwight howard 3.lebron james4.shane battier 5.ron artest.

 

What, do you think Odom is better than Kobe or something? Sorry, but he's not.

 

Again, you are focusing on one stat, and that is simplistic. If Kobe shoots 50 shots and only makes 20 he will surpass his average but will shoot a horrible percentage and hurt his time.

like most Rox fans, u seem to be infatuated by some of the good plays Arteist made; conveniently let that overshadow the fact the Artest could not hold either Roy nor Kobe to anything

 

Both Roy and Kobe also have a lower field goal % against Battier.

 

Ron is still very good defender but yes, he is overrated now. For example, Battier is way better.

Maybe ankle injury slowed Ron down last season, but in general he is not as good as he once was. He is no longer quick and in the past, he was known to be pretty guick, that is why he was the best.

The difference between him and Dhane is, Battier gives you some space and once you make any move he is able to catch you and make it tough. What Ron does, is he gambles and tries to be as close to you as he can. That's why Rick put Shane on Kobe, because Bryant still was able to get right by Artest.

 

They believe Ron has good defense because they remember when he used to be good at it.

He is NOT good at it any longer.

DD

 

Ron gets a bunch o steals
Ron +/- on defense is -4.6

There is no doubt that he effected the defense in a positive way but Battier is the better defender although the numbers aren't as good ast Rons on defensive +/-

 

think ur just making it up.

Battier, as good as he is in positioning, isn't that quick nor athletic nor strong to be a top defender

 

Give me your Top 10 defenders in the League.
Also Rank the Rockets Defensively.

Rocket River

 

It probably had more to do with the fact the guys that were replacing him were Wafer and Barry.