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Post any tactics to defend Gasol and Bynum in the post....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, May 13, 2009.

  1. Jeremiah

    Jeremiah Contributing Member

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    Bingo. Either foul or psych him out.
     
  2. blender

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    Our frontcourt guys have to avoid fouling early in the game. One of the major ways to do that is to attack their bigs and get them in foul trouble first which would make them tentative, as in Game 4.

    I can't think of what else we could do against Gasol than to sic Hayes on him. Hayes just has to stay out of foul trouble, even if it means giving up some layups and dunks. He can't pick up early fouls, like he did in Game 5.
     
  3. PktRockets

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    True, but we can make use of his physicality. Dorsey = 6 more fouls. Each time Gasol goes into the lane, Dorsey can lay some hurt (not injuring Gasol) and making sure his presence is felt. Gasol will back off and think twice about getting to the rim.
     
  4. RocketFan34

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    If Hayes gets in foul trouble we should move Artest to the 4 to guard Gasol.
     
  5. rocketman5803

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    wow ~guess what :
    wafer on bryant
    brooks on farmer
    maybe lowry could cause trouble for them ,but once Lakers play tight on defense ,our guards cannot easily even get into their paint .
     
  6. rocketman5803

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    you want them to be in foul trouble ,and so do they.Especially after Game 5,the lakers have known that the best way to sweep us away is to attack the rim after yao is out .
     
  7. The_Yoyo

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    sweep the leg!
     
  8. envus22

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    ditto!

    i say we stay the course for the first qtr and let the fans give them the boost they need. If at any point we start to let it slip away, after initiating contact and possibly drawing the foul, lets make our free throws (especially the last one) and then run a mini press and/or trap to take them out of their offense early in the shot clock. Possibly cause a turnover (steal, 8-second call, etc) since their bigs will be on the free throw line and then in bounding the ball. We have the speed not the length, unless we decide to use a floater like wafer or white to play centerfield to intercept a length-of-the-court heave... we cant counter with bigs cause we dont have any, so lets play the role of a cunning fox outsmarting a school of warthogs...

    i really believe shock value (pressing and/or trapping) will startle the fakers since game planning has not accounted for this. The added element of surprise is always good!
     
  9. FR0497

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    Dorsey would get 6 fouls in the matter of a couple minutes. I highly doubt that would cause Gasol to think twice.
     
  10. ncagg42

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    Personell wise: Don't let brian cook play. im sorry but he is an offensive specialist, and sscored 0 points in extended time.

    Try Joey Dorsey instead.


    And the biggest reason why we gave up so many points was turnovers. Have solid posessions on offense will give us a lot more help on defense.



    There isnt much you can do x's and o's wise, but Gasol doenst like to get physical, use dorsey and hayes on him and contain him.
     
  11. willb

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    hilarious dorsey would foul out in 3 min. hed be worse than the human foul machine oden.
     
  12. jevon3012

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    chop legs off
     
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    Even you put Chuck on Gasol, it's still a problem as we have witnessed. Gasol is just too tall, too skilled for the Rockets. The Rockets cannot commit too much double team on the guy since other Lakers will get open, and crash the offensive board.

    Gasol's weakness are his stamina & toughness, so we need to start attack those areas.

    On defense, I'd like to see the Rockets meet Gasol full court, bump him along the way, so when he gets to the front court un-scratched, it will be late on shot clock, not much time for him to get into the post, and make his moves. Plus, all those bumps will wear him out after a couple of qtrs, and get him frustrated, we have Landry, Cook, Artest, and Chuck for that role.

    On offense, we don't have post players who can draw fouls inside, Scola can only count as 1/2 at the best, so it's important for our guards, particularly Aaron, to use Gasol's man on PnR, attack him. This will make him work, and get him into foul trouble. In game 4, Aaron attracted Gasol on the right wing, went hard to the baseline, and Gasol was called foul twice(?) because he couldn't keep up with Aaron's speed. The key is that Aaron has to be determined to go all out, not half way, and allow them to half commit on defense.
     
  15. IBleedRed08

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    Thread title should've been "Post any tactics to defend and score against Gasol and Bynum"

    On offense:
    Keep attacking the rim. Force fouls out of those guys. (Okay, I know Gasol and Bynum can simply stuff the F* out of anybody at the rim with our small lineup. But who knows? Bynum is still a fouling C like Oden)

    And we should make much use of pick-and-pop or pick-and-roll plays to force out the bigs out of our paint. We have the energy to do so. And that would give an easier avenue at least, for an Aaron Brooks, or Von Wafer. Cook would be good for a PnP, while Scolandry can use their quickness to take advantage of either a PnP or PnR play. (easier said than done though, we'll see.)

    On defense:
    Seriously, the priority option is, Chuck must STAY OUT of foul trouble, just good D without fouling. He's our only significant post defender we have after Yao and Deke. Likewise, Gasol is damn soft, and when Chuck can play more, he can psych the hell out of Pau.

    Disturb the passing lanes and deflect entry passes to Gasol. And deny him opportunities for offensive rebounds (same goes for Odom) because he can just slam it back within 5 feet of the rim. Consequently, we need to have weakside rebounders for that purpose. But, we can exert less effort on D if we don't give them the offensive caroms, of which Gasol and Odom do well. By getting the boards, we can bother less defending Gasol or Bynum for another 24 seconds.

    Force the ball out of Bynum's hands. Artest would do well with his quick hands. Rick should be putting him there.

    Team effort. We don't have go-to-guys anymore. So it's down to a SOLID 110% TEAM EFFORT.

    They're all ideal but basic tactics, but we have got to do what's ideal to win.

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    And... Dorsey. 6-foot-8. 265 pounds. 6 fouls. I hope he can take Gasol or Bynum out of the picture.

    Pau Gasol =

    [​IMG]
     
  16. StevieFlight3

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    Artest really needs to defend him or Gasol.
     
  17. Dave_78

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    Ask Carl Landry to show up?

    That would go a long way defensively and offensively for this team.
     
  18. FR0497

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    This is by far the best option so far.

    Artest CAN NOT guard Gasol. Hell even Hayes, our best post defender, can't stop Gasol. He can make things tough for him but ultimately Gasol is just too tall and offensively talented. We need length, and with our 2 centers out we don't have it.

    I'd much rather see them relentlessly taking it to the whole than shooting 32% and only attempting 16 FT's compared to L.A.'s 36.
     
  19. FR0497

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    Fixed.
     
  20. tofu--

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    Hayes not getting into foul trouble.

    Case closed.
     

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