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How to beat the triangle offense

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vibe, May 5, 2009.

  1. vibe

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    I don't post too often but I've had enough with the media bias (it's all marketing tactics) and fan ignorance.

    If fans would take a second to understand Xs and Os they would understand that playoff games are all about systems and player match-ups.

    The way to beat a triangle style offense is to a) put pressure, a lot of pressure on the main player in the triangle (in this case it's obviously Kobe Bryant). You need one player that can play a lot of minutes putting steady and frustrating pressure on that player plus a couple of other role players to help add pressure, and b) you need a good post up offense and defense with size. We have that in Yao and Scola/Landry.

    This current Rockets team has the players and system to beat the Lakers. I'm not saying it will happen but it could very well happen if the players do their jobs and play within the system.

    I'm more worried about the Nuggets than I am about the Lakers.

    Anyone who knows their history and anything about systems and match-ups will understand. It's just a shame that the media never talks about these kinds of things. But then again, they're trying to make money, not educate the fans.
     
  2. Master Baiter

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    You are getting way, way, way ahead of yourself. Seriously, STFU about the Nuggets.
     
  3. tslee98

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    Didn't Doug Collins say last night that the Lakers don't really run the triangle offense any more? I think it was mentioned in some articles about the Rockets' defense, too. Instead of being a chiefly triangle offense, they use their athleticism and talent to create spontaneous and flexible opportunities. I don't know if I agree with the word "talent" to describe their roster, but they didn't seem to be running a rigid triangle offense like they did with Shaq. Maybe when Bynum played for 15 minutes, but I think they've abandoned it by now.
     
  4. subzor

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    nuggets better than LA? there goes ur credibility
     
  5. YallMean

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    I just don't understand why Lakers didn't run PnR with Kobe and Gasol on Yao all night long. They probably will do that in game 2 all night, that's why Phil is so confident.
     
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    Yeah, they haven't consistently played the triangle, since Shaq left. Since, they haven't really had dominate scoring big man or a solid shooting Small forward. They've just been a very athletic team who can pass the ball really well with a few flashes of triangle offense. Since, they don't really need triangle offense, because it is not the main reason they score so many points.
     
  7. vibe

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    Hence, you step up and prove my point exactly. Reactionary and emotional, without thinking. Do you even know what kind of offense George Karl runs and why in the playoffs it could cause trouble for Yao and our system? When your ready to talk about basketball instead of being inflammatory, let's talk.
     
  8. vibe

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    I don't think the Nuggets are better than the Lakers. I just think their system could potentially cause a set of problems for ours that we may not be able to deal with in the playoffs as well.
     
  9. Hims21

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    Who cares about the Nuggets. We'll talk about them once we get past the Lakers.

    Even with the game 1 win. People are still favoring the Lakers to win the playoffs.
     
  10. laneh

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    Watch more carefully, the Lakers don't run the triangle that much anymore... they are about running, D and fast pace.
     
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  12. vibe

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    Agreed, but they still have triangle style personal (very similar to the early 90s Bulls in terms of personal, old slower but smart backcourt, small low scoring big man, but very talented and high scoring forwards and a two guard in their prime and an assortment of role playing guards), and of course even though not exactly the same, they have Jackson who has his system and has modified it to fit his players.
     
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    Yea, we were 3-1 against them in the regular season.
     
  14. vibe

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    Anyone willing to put money were your mouths are?
     
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    You know by now regular season games don't mean much - at least in the round 2 series so far. I agreed with Vibe and I don't think he is ahead of himself.

    There is nothing wrong to say the Rockets can match up with the Lakers. Talent plus arrogance won't get you far, hard work, humility, character and toughness will. It takes many battles to become battle-hardened. The Lakers have had it easy in the Jazz series (for example, Boozer didn't defend, much) and it would be uncomfortable for them to have to tough this series out.

    Granted, they will definitely shoot better - but they are not going to become a physically tougher team overnight. The Rockets can win playing tough and this is what is going to happen.
     
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    How does our offense have any impact on defending the triangle?

    Also, I would suggest doing what we did in game 1. That worked pretty well.
     
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    OP, stop talking about the Nuggets. Its not that we are against talking about X's and O's rationally (intelligent conversation is what made this board great before the flood of 2002....), its just a really really really bad idea to be talking about the next round when
    1- the Lakers are still the heavy favorite to win the series and
    2- the nuggets have not won their series yet. everyone on this board should know that 2-0 lead means practically nothing in the playoffs.

    So i would really appreciate it if you would just stop the talk about the Nuggets.
     
  18. ty185

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    vibe, I'm still waiting for your detailed analysis about the tactical side of triangle offense and how rockets should/could counter it.

    It's fine to say the media is all about hype and not about educate fans. But unless you are willing to share your basketball knowledge and educate the masses of "uneducated fans" like me, you are not doing anything more than the media...

    so please, share what you know about the Xs and Os of the game, and let the less knowledgeable fans benefit from your knowledge and see where you are coming from, instead of just shouting "I'm smarter than all of you!" in 5 different ways...

    you'll be thanked for that.
     
  19. Aznoob

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    And what were we against the Lakers? Regular season doesn't mean anything.
     
  20. Electro

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    it's almost like a conspiracy theorist that has trouble pointing the people where to look.

    c'mon OP, give us a little more to use so we can better understand. And i do agree with you however that IF we beat the lakers, the nuggets might have a difficult personnel with Billups and their other stars.
     

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