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Aaron Brooks > Rafer Alston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mozart123, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. morpheus133

    morpheus133 Member

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    Lowry today:
    2/3, 2 assists/4 turn overs. Only 1 turn over for Rafer, and 3 steals. +/- was +7 For Alston and -7 for Lowry. Last i checked we traded for Lowry not Brooks.

    Lowry may end up being an upgrade down the road, but what almost cost us the game tonight was poor PG defense, turn overs and bad shots. Hopefully Barea just had a one of those nights where every thing he throws up goes in regardless of the defense, but it still didn't help dispel concerns about our PG defense.

    There was always the option to start Brooks and bring Rafer off the bench , the Rockets just never bothered to try, presumably because they felt Rafer fit better as the starter up to the point that they traded him.
     
  2. rhino17

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    an ill-advised Rafer shot is as bad if not worse than a turnover
     
  3. northeastfan

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    Ding ding ding ding ... we have a winner!
     
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    it was fools gold......if dirk had a bad night we still would've lost, he had a horrendous night........yao score 2 4th quarter pts, and the last 2 possessions was brooks basically holding the ball till the shot clock ran to 7ish........first time he threw up a crazy layup, we got lucky they turned it over and he hit the 3........lowry gets killed on the boards, he's tough but useless.
     
  5. RocksMillenium

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    Win-win for everybody. Orlando needed a PG, they got one. The Rockets needed to upgrade the PG position they did that.
     
  6. RocksMillenium

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    You do realize that this was Lowry's first game with a new team right? Also, I think the Rockets realized that Rafer WAS NOT a good backup PG. He was being used essentially the same way Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell were being used. Do you think Kenny Smith was the better PG because he started?
     
  7. morpheus133

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    Rafer misses alot of his shots, but few of them are really that ill-advised. He gets lots of wide open 3pt shots and because he takes so many 3's his overall FG% is below average. Rafer's Adjusted FG% is an acceptable 44.6% to Lowry's 44.3%.
    AFG%: Adjusted Field Goal Percentage = [(PTS - FTM)/FGA]/2
    AFG% measures shooting efficiency by taking into account the total points a player produces through his field goal attempts. The intention of this adjustment is largely to evaluate the impact of three-point shooting. For example, if Shaquille O'Neal has 3-5 FG, all two-point shots for 6 points, then his AFG% = [(6/5)]/2 = .600. Meanwhile, if Ray Allen is 2-5 FG, but his 2 FGM are both three-pointers for 6 points, then his AFG% = [(6/5)]/2 = .600
     
  8. michecon

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    Based on what? Numbers? Some hit shots?

    If there wasn't so many turnover, if they take control of the game in the early 4th, those big 3s weren't even needed. If Barret or whoever his name is didn't went off against our PGs, we wouldn't need those either based on poor plays of Dirk.
     
  9. morpheus133

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    And it was Rafer's first game with a new team too, so what's your point? The Rocket's never tried Rafer as the back up but they sure did bring in alot of players that everyone was sure would be his replacement. Kind of like last year when Mike James had a few good games at the start of the year and every one was convinced he was the answer...
     
  10. Ashes

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    Haha. Barea went off.
     
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    When you are as bad of a shooter as he is (37%), any shot you take is ill-advised, especially when he jacks up as many 3 pointers as he does. I often times saw him take shots that were not open, when there was still a lot of time left on the shot clock, and take his stupid floater that he NEVER made. Its simple, don't take a lot of shots if you are a bad shooter.

    Rafer was at his best when he played within his own game. When he took a very small amount of shots and just didn't mess up.
     
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    i wasnt too impressed with lowry's defense tonight. the guy went under the pick and barea made the shot every time. rafer fought through every pick well. hoepfully lowry learns that.
     
  13. vince100

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    now that's a fine argument. to say we traded Rafer for Brooks is just dumb.
     
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    AB is a better scorer, but not a better floor general, but who cares, as long as he can keep the TO's down and knock down his shots.
     
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    Lowry played Memphis Grizzlies defense on the pick and roll with Barea and Brooks didn't do much better. But it was Lowry's first game. Brooks shot well but in terms of running the offense and team ... Brooks has ways to go. Too much dribbling.
     
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    Agree with this... and the thread title.



    And in Dallas today, on the radio, they were mocking the sentiment of some of us that "the Rockets will be better" after the trade and sans T-Mac...


    They were mocking it...


    We're just about ready to lift-off, my fellow Clutchizens... Get ready to Believe it!
     
  17. ohyesohyes

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    Arron Brooks shows everybody he can PLAY!
     
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    yeah i like that but isn't to trade a guy who is all defense and get pwned with threeee threee pointers if the player is good at staring , is better at backing up
     
  19. jopatmc

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    Oh hell. I CANNOT believe you Rafer justifiers after tonight. So what Brooks had 4 TOs. My God. Do you realize that those TOs that would not have been TOs would have turned into missed shots anyways if Rafer was out there? Not only that because the defense never respected Rafer's shooting, it made ALL the shots he got our offense by being so low turnover even more difficult because the defense was able to sag and double everybody else.

    Wake up and smell the coffee Rafer justifiers. Watch da dam game for once. We just came back from a huge deficit and blew past a pretty good team, without a real backup PG who knew anything about the team and without our other Superstar monster man on the floor. AND WITHOUT BRICKSTER!

    Brooks is only going to get better. And Lowry is only going to get better. Rafer was never going to get better. He was only going to get worse.

    For once this offense looked we could actually find ways to score. There was movement galore.

    Just wait another couple weeks when Lowry finally gets adjusted and Adelman throws both of those midgets out there at the same time and we run ramshackle over somebody's second unit.

    I loved how Brooks took the ball to the opposite side of Ron tonight, controlled it and took the shot. Artest was on the right sideline with his hands up looking for the ball. Brooks does not need to defer to anybody at the end of games. Put the ball in his hands and let him make something of it. 8 assists/4 turrnovers, a respectable 2:1 a/TO ratio. Absolutely nothing wrong with it considering how much he handles the ball. We are a better team today with Brooks becoming the starter and leader.
     
  20. nhr407

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    yeah, exactly. You got the point.
     

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