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[Video] Yao Ming, Brandon Roy final shots

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. mic

    mic Contributing Member

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    I've accepted the defeat, but I wonder...

    Why can't the Rockets ever seem to catch a break?
     
  2. swyyyguy

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    to avoid being a homer, the rockets do catch breaks. we are just much more aware of the times that they don't catch a break.
     
  3. got red

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    count one Mississippi when the ball is inbounded. doesnt count.
     
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    Shame on tnt for not showing the clock on the replays....you would have cleary saw that they started the clock late.....a-holes!!!!
     
  5. ILoveTheRockets

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    that was a epic ending to a game... I am still saying OMG about it. Een when I woke up this morning the first thing I said was.... OMG i can not believe he made that got dang shot.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Sometimes you get the refs, and sometimes the refs get you. We were shafted in the finest Rockets tradition. :(
     
  7. moestavern19

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    Can anything even happen to overturn this?

    I know the NBA made the Heat and some other team replay a game last year because of a blown call... but this is really on the clock keepers so I guess its out of their hands?
     
  8. ibm

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    seeing this hurts even more. the clock management at portland sure is as good as at utah. oh well.
     
  9. ClutchCityReturns

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    What do you mean when you mention Yao's shot? He got fouled, so 0.8 was correct. The refs have microphones on them that automatically stop the clock when they blow the whistle. If you're contesting the start of the clock, it appeared to be accurate within .1, maybe .2 seconds. That's understandable human error.

    I also think the 1.6 seconds being thrown around here (via Hollinger) was actually during the (slightly) slow motion replay. Surprising that Hollinger would make such a blunder, but the real time play is nowhere near 1.6 seconds from catch to release.

    Also, some people are saying that it was Tracy's fault and I don't think it was. It looked to me that Ron was telling Tracy to switch on a down screen. There was just as much chance that Outlaw would break to the rim for a lob, so someone had to stay down. So, Roy headed up and Tracy stayed there because he was expecting Outlaw to set the down screen, upon which he and Ron would swap. Instead, Outlaw stayed at the top and screened Artest in place. That took McGrady out of the play, and held Ron up just long enough to create an opportunity for Roy.

    It was just an unfortunate play that probably had about a 2% chance of being successful. **** happens.
     
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  10. trueroxfan

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    can anyone REALLY be mad abt the game last night? i mean it's early season, there were two GREAT shots, i love great games. once battier gets back i think we'll be a more steady team, right now we're still learning
     
  11. Problem-Chyld

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    if roy had any kind of defense on him there would be no way he would even get that shot near the rim, you cant give up a wide open shot for a game winner idc where you are on the court these are the best basketball players in the world you cant leave them open for a game winner. tmac should have guarded outlaw though hes not much of a shooter
     
  12. archinkent

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    wow, lucky basket. i do however like how the ball was high in the air for a sec and it was silent, then the crowd erupted, feels like one of those cliche basketball movie endings. :D but props to roy. cant say im mad at all rockets lost, unlike the boston game.
     
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    all in all all you can do is drop your jaw and say wow. Things like that happen Derrick Fisher did it with .4 of a second but he just threw it. Brandon Roy did all that with .8 of a second. They should review that i still find that strange he did all of that with that little bit of time :confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:
     
  16. BQE

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    Artest was supposed to cover Roy. If you see the clip TMac realized that Roy broke with Artest no where to be found thats why he went for Roy. It was Artest who lost him, so lets not blame TMac for everything under the sun.
     
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    I agree, it's more than 0.8 second to catch, turn around, shoot (not heave) in a normal rhythm from that far, the ball has stay a lot longer in your hand to get the power. The Rockets organization should challenge that, can the league change the on court decision? On court decision depends a lot on the clock operator. We should independently determine if that shot took more than .8 to shoot and then send the proof to the league office. Oh well not gonna happen.....
     
  18. ClutchCityReturns

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    He actually caught it as he was turning to shoot, so that cuts down on how long it would have taken. It's a technicality, but we're talking about 0.8 here. It's based on technicality.
     
  19. BQE

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    Very nice analysis of the play... I do disagree with the .8 sec though. According to the league, u cannot catch and shoot with less than .4 sec. Now turning around as Roy did would take at least and additional .4 sec and shooting the ball from that far would require the ball in your hands a lot longer than even a normal three point shot. I say conservatively it would take over a second for that shot.
     
  20. BQE

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    Well sure, but we are trying to cut down on the technicality. If we can prove somehow that it took more than .8 sec for that shot, the league should honor that and not go based on technicality. If not, oh well, great game and we move on.
     

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