Thanks, I only have slept about an hour or so and I copied the wrong information. I checked everything else and it should be OK now.
I am afraid the first rule must be evaluated first. We are not tied in terms of winning percentage among the teams that have tied.
Wow!! That is crazy.. but Shane B said it best in one of his interviews.. if we continue to play like we've been playing during this winning streak, the standings will take care of itself... we have to take advantage of the easy schedule coming (excluding NO - that's going to be a tough game but winnable) up after the ASG. One of the other teams will falter.
I think the next 5 after the break are all winnable. Obviously Cleveland and NO are gonna be the bigger tests, but historically, we've owned the Cavs since McGrady got here. NO is really good this season but I think we match up rather well with them. Tyson Chandler cannot stop Yao, and Tmac is gonna eat Peja alive without giving up much on the other end. Peja's not the most physical nor the most athletic player. Tmac thrives against jumpshooters. Of course, Chris Paul will get his against almost any PG in the league. So IMO, it comes down to how Scola/Hayes/Landry plays David West. If you can stop David West and at least slow Paul down, we have a shot. Now will Golden State just trip up already. They're pulling improbable wins out of their behinds far too often.
Yes they sure did!!! I was about to post this. This has to mean we are in 8th and ESPN is right and NBA.com is wrong.
it is very clear according to the three-way tiebreaker rules that we are (unfortunately) in the 9th seed..
Hate to say but the dumb tiebreaker rules would have us as the odd team out if the playoffs started today. http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/teamReport?categoryId=71084&type=InsideSlant Eventually, the Rockets would like to have something to show for their efforts. After weeks of winning, with their streak up to eight games and with wins in 12 of 13, the Rockets would probably like to have gone somewhere. So far, they have won and won and climbed all the way from 10th to 9th in the Western Conference. Technically, they head to the All-Star break tied with Golden State and Denver. But if the tie-breaker rules were in place as they would be at the season's end, they would be the team left out. The Rockets are on pace to win 50 games and not make the playoffs, which would shatter their league record for wins for a team that did not advance to the post-season. They won 45 games in 2000-01 and did not go anywhere. The Rockets so far have just won a bunch of games since the calendar moved to 2008 (falling second to Utah in 2008) and not gone much of anywhere. For now, however, they are treating that as a good thing, as a reminder to keep them grounded even as their record has soared. "We just have to keep on playing ball the way we're playing," Rockets guard Tracy McGrady said. "As good as we're playing, we're still out of the playoffs. We understand that we have to keep grinding. We have to realize that we control our own destiny. Let's not worry about what other teams are doing. Let's worry about what we're doing and continue to play the way we're playing. "We're showing how good we can be: Eight-game winning streak on the road, playing well at home, trying to close out this first half of the season with wins. We're showing we can be one the elite teams in this league." To do that, eventually they will have to move up. For now, however, this seems to be working.
9th. Definitely. yes we do have better conference record than Denver. but, there're three teams have the same record, 32-20. so it's about wins against each others. Warriors 3-2 Nuggets 2-2 Rockets 2-3 that's why we are still 9th now.
Any way, hope we can make it to 8th or 7th or better spots by the end of this month, otherwise, with a damn tough schedule in March, who knows what's gonna happen, I mean, our last game this season would be at April 16th.
No biggie. It's not like the playoffs start today. But the fact that we're 32-20 overall and 17-3 in our last 20 games, yet have moved up only one spot in the standings to 9th place is truly sad. If the 9th place Western team this season ends up with over 50 wins and an Eastern playoff team ends up with fewer than 35 wins, something has to change about the postseason format.
Atcually, we are the 8th seed now. Because the rockets, nuggets, and the warriors are not in the same division, that rule cannot be applied to us. You know that if the teams are not in same division, some teams need to play 4 times with each other and some teams just need to play 3 times with each other.
MORE THAN TWO TEAMS TIED 1. If applicable, division champions must be determined first. 2. Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams. 3. Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in same division). 4. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. 5. Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including team that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 6. Best point differential between offense and defense. Note: If a multiple team tie is reduced to a two-team tie at any point using the above criteria, the two-team tie will be resolved in accordance with the existing two-team tie procedure.
The following is an explanation of NBA tiebreaking scenarios. Determining Ties for Playoff Position In order to break a tie for playoff positions, if one exists at the end of the regular season, the following criteria will be utilized in the order set forth: TWO-WAY TIES 1. Results of games against each other. 2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division). 3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. 4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 6. Better point differential between offense and defense. MORE THAN TWO TEAMS TIED 1. If applicable, division champions must be determined first. 2. Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams. 3. Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in same division). 4. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. 5. Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including team that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 6. Best point differential between offense and defense. Note: If a multiple team tie is reduced to a two-team tie at any point using the above criteria, the two-team tie will be resolved in accordance with the existing two-team tie procedure.
Well, the multiple team tie breaker rules only decide who wins out. It does not decide the complete order. Did you notice this little note? Applying rule 1 gives GW the three team tie winner, but leaves a tie between Rox and Nuggets. So according to that note we have to go back to the two team tie breaker rules, which determines Houston is the winner due to better conference record. The keyword here is what defines a tie. A "tie" is teams having equal number of wins/losses. Nothing else. So once GW wins the three way tie, we have a two way tie. ESPN and TNT are right on this one. I know this is not a big deal because the season is far from over. But with the way the western conference is going, it might just come down to digging some of these fine words that nobody noticed before
