Yao still has a 16.5 rebound rate while Dikembe has a 21.8 rebound rate. Shaq has a 15.4 rebound rate, and Alonzo has a 13.4 rebound rate. You can't use that argument for Hayes that "he has bad rebounders around him so he gets more rebounds". Especially when comparing him with someone like Haslem whose team doesn't have the rebounders the Rockets do.
Now, given EVERYTHING I said, I wouldn't be devastated if we traded Alston (not Head) for Haslem. We'd just be trading a PG we don't need for a PF we don't need. A lateral move. I wouldn't like how it works out basketball-wise, obviously, but in the big scheme of things, whether we should play Haslem insead of Hayes is a bit trivial because of how good all our other players are. Projection-wise, we'd probably win 3 or 4 more games if we played Hayes instead of Haslem (and yes, there is a system to predict that statistically).
Ah alright, my bad then... well one last argument I can think of: Chuck tends to get into foul trouble real quick! So when Scola gets hurt or doesn`t produce as we jope him to do, then Chuck might limit his minutes himself by getting into foul trouble.
Shaq isn't stealing any rebounds from Haslem. He has missed 65 games throughout the last 2 seasons and got 7.4 rebounds/game, last year, compared to Yao's 9.4 rebounds/game. I don't think Haslem is bad rebounder though. Like somebody said earlier, he is a combo of Juwan/Hayes, with his midrange shooting and rebounding.
Yes, Chuck Hayes is foul-prone but not enough to where he can't play 30 mpg. Scola getting injured or not panning out is the only reason I want us to make one more trade to get rid of Rafer to bring another big in but again, there are better fits out there than Haslem (Foster).
I think rebound rates,like other stats, are guides to comparing players but it is does not tell the whole story. For example, Hayes, who is not an offensive threat should have an easier time getting offensive rebounds because his defender would sag off him and would not be in position to box him out as well they do Yao/Shaq/better offensive C/PFs, who get double teamed and which defenses try hardest to keep out of the paint even when they are not yet fighting for rebounds.
See the thing with Scola hes not a good rebounder, and I know haslem isnt that great either but hes better than Scola.
I'd rather we traded Rafer for Doleac and Simien straight up. That would give us two expiring contracts, allowing us to us the MLE next summer while staying under the luxury tax threshold. Haslem is slightly on the overpaid side.
James Francis Brooks Alston Lucas Sura McGrady Bonzi Head Battier Snyder Reed Harris Scola Novak Yao Butler 69.915M (17 players) - Sura 66.075M (16 players) Trade Alston, Snyder, & draft rights to Landry (6.9M) for Haslem (6.05M) S&T Hayes (from 2.6M to 3.9M) for Doleac (3.12M) -Incentive for Hayes is to get a bigger contract. -Rockets get Haslem, Miami gets to dump Doleac's contract. - 850K + 3.12M 68.345M (16 players) Lucas to Hornets via minimum salary exception -no TE is generated. - Lucas 67.574M (15 players) James Francis Brooks McGrady Bonzi Head Battier Reed Harris Scola Haslem Novak Yao Doleac Butler If they're still over they could shop Reed before the trade deadline or cut Harris's non-guaranteed contract Luxury Tax: $67.865M Team Salary: $67.574M
I think Scola and Hayes are all we need at PF. Keep Rafer, Snyder, and Head for our depth. Start the season now.
Hayes compliments Yao and his shortcomings? Are you serious? The main complaint since Yao has been here is that we didn't have a PF that compliments his shortcomings. Haslem isn't that PF either, but he is better than Hayes.
Get it done Morey..Haslem would be the finally piece IMO that we need...we can def be a great team without Haslem but it wouldnt hurt a bit to acquire...Rockets would have more depth then alomst anyother team out there...right now with or without haslem we are a top 3 team in the west/NBA
Rafer + Luther for Foster? Rafer is more experienced than Diener and Luther is more proven than Rush so this might work especially if Indiana plans to trade Tinsley. How about Shareef? If Sac trades Bibby, they'll need a PG and they have a glut at PF. For me, Foster seems like a better complement but Shareef would provide more scoring from the big man position if Yao/Scola is not available.
You do have a habit of repeating the same point again and again and ignoring arguments that you can't reply, don't you? How do you explain that Haslem has been playing 30+ mpg for the last 3 season, one of which a championship season, and Hayes never played more than 20 mpg for a team who had lots of injuries? (BTW, Hayes probably couldn't have played more even if he had more talent because he would have fouled out by the 3rd quarter if he were played more.) When you have a player who can't shoot, you are putting a lot of pressure on the other 4 players offensively. You NEVER had a good answer for Hayes' offensive liability, because you don't have one.
