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Battier for Lewis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ooliverb1, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. geeimsobored

    geeimsobored Contributing Member

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    Rashard Lewis Highlights.

    Highlights #1 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/fx01cf

    Highlights #2 <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ce1-ax5TRdA"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ce1-ax5TRdA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
     
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  2. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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  3. texanskan

    texanskan Contributing Member

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    agree on Lewis not on Wilcox
     
  4. PeteTheCheat

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    if we were to get wilcox I would assume we would be the ones receiving a draft pick as opposed to the other way around if it was lewis involved.

    that would most likely spell the end of howards days as a rocket as well...
     
  5. JayZ750

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    Wilcox + 31 + 35 for Shane...?

    Problem is, assuming Lewis stays, I don't see how this is a good deal for the Sonics. They need more inside presence, not less. And they'd basically have 3 smal forwards/occasional PF's then.

    I think the Wilcox thing was just this writer making some crap up (if it all wasn't).
     
  6. B.I.G

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    Are you freakin kidding? Possibly the stupidest post I have read. Battier is better than Rashard???? Rashard is an all star!!!! You obviously know little about the game. You are telling me you would not trade Battier for Rashard but you would essentially trade Yao for Rashard.

    IDIOTIC!
     
  7. yaominn

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    sonics will be a scary team after they get yao.
     
  8. wrestler4life

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    Yeah, I was with you until the last statement: #3
     
  9. vj23k

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    I don't mean to hate on a hometown kid, but if that highlight video is any indication, Lewis may be the least impressive 20 ppg player I have ever seen. No post ups, no penetration...basically not a single shot created on his own.

    The Yao for Rashard is one of the worst trades I've seen on this board.
     
  10. Vivid

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    If only there was a way to get both Lewis and Artest. Artest is a big boy and a solid rebounder who can shut down wings and D up post guys. He has guarded 4s before and is so much bigger and stronger than Hayes. He would turn us into a very versatile team if we also got Lewis

    Tmac 6'9 235 6.1 rpg
    Lewis 6'10 230 6.2 rpg
    Artest 6'8 260 6.5 rpg

    You guys want a banger 4, but I believe a versatile forward combo with killer defense gives us more mis-matches in our favor. Take Boozer, who is 6'9 267, he is considered a beast now. He isn't so strong he can man handle a 6'8 260 lb Artest, but he is no where quick enough to keep up. Artest will draw Boozer (and any other banger 4) away from the middle, opening things for Yao and hurting the opponents who depend on the their banger 4's defensive rebounds. Tmac and Lewis are good rebounders. It is not about one person but the team. With a combo of Hayes Battier and Tmac you got more rebounds from the 4 but less for the 3. Battier's career average show he doesn't get as many boards as Lewis who had multible 6.5 plus rebound seasons. I recommend Artest as our new four. If he doesn't work, lucky us we have a cheap alternative that was last year's starter. Artest being backed up by Hayes loses us less rebounds than Hayes backed up by Howard.

    We trade Battier and Sura for Lewis, we trade Howard for James, we trade Alston, Vspan, Head, for Artest

    Why they do it. Seattle decides they would rather have Battier on the team as a veteran leader than not have Battier and let Lewis walk. Sac decides with Bibby's uncertain status and declining game they need a cheap legitimate back up to take some pressure off of Bibby. Alston is bad as a starter but solid as a backup. Vspan gives them a young prospect and Head is a valuable shooter who was our 6th man last year. Many here wanted him to participate in the 3pt shoot out. He helps them in their youth movement. Minn has had interest in this deal since last year.

    Successful Scenario
    Due to Houston, Sacramento, Seattle, and Minnesota being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston, Sacramento, and Minnesota had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    We should use the MLE to sign Darko as our back up 4 and 5. He has skills and is still young. Many think he is a bust but I think he could contribute here. Sign Francis to the min as our 6th man. Resign Wells. Any given night we can throw out different lineups. We are versatile and offensively dangerous. We can afford to play our big two less to have them rest up for big games. Minutes could be distributed like-

    Yao 34 Darko 12 Deke 2
    Artest 30 Darko 12 Hayes 6
    Lewis 34 Snyder 8 Tmac 6 Novak
    Tmac 25 Wells 23
    James 24 Francis 24 JL3
     
  11. weslinder

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    He's not a creator, at all, and he's soft. That's why I don't understand the infatuation.
     
  12. sammy

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    lol...you're not impressed with those jams? :confused:

    the fact that he is a career 46% fg shooter really impresses me
     
  13. bbjai

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    I don't think its realistic to think that we can get Artest AND Lewis. I like the analysis before with T-mac Lewis and Artest at 2-3-4. I think that would work. But once against too many people can take shots, not enough people are going to be not selfish.


    On the Lewis subject

    Is there ANYWAY we can let Lewis know he will be a hit with the fans in Houston if he ever did come? Home town boy he is but i think an important bit would be to let him know that Houston people really want him! Like a fan sponsered advert or a public petition site or something?
     
  14. jopatmc

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    ...........you don't think Lewis knows he will be a hit with the fans in Houston??
     
  15. bbjai

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    I wouldn't know to be honest

    Never been to Houston
    Would love to.............I was thinking more on the lines of a big big website with alot of worldwide support to be honest. Don't know if that ever has been tried

    Don't know if that counts for anything when his choosing between millions and Houston :D
     
  16. Vivid

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    You might be on to something....COME HOME SHARD!
     
  17. bbjai

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    thats what I mean

    how on earth will he know
    should have a dedicated website with masses of loyal worldwide Rocket fans posting their only little bit to bring Shard back
     
  18. NewYorker

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    This trade won't happen.

    If Lewis was planing to force a trade to Houston or leave Seattle as a free agent, Houston wouldn't offer up Shane Battier and the number one pick.

    We'd offer up Bobby Sura and other garbage. Probably a second round pick too.

    Rashard will resign with Seattle...this is probably just trying to use us as a tool.
     
  19. bbjai

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    What I don't get

    Why spin with Houston

    Why not spin with Charlotte or Orlando.............
     
  20. viertelasiat

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    I agree with you on Artest I dont think we could get Lewis, James and Artest thats way beyond the cap. but we could do

    Battier + sura + a first for Rashard
    (not much for seattle to lose, Rashard has already opted out they would be getting battier at his current contract which is good and a pick)
    and
    Juwan + head + a first for Artest
    (rumor has it they want to get rid of Artest)

    hell yes I would do it.... in a heart beat we would still have the MLE to sign another player without paying luxury tax
    that would be

    Yao 7'6"
    Artest 6'8"
    Lewis 6'10"
    Tmac 6'9"
    Alston 6'2

    no more scoring problems or problems at the 4.
     

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