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Why did we cut Don Maclean?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Finalfantasy, Dec 14, 1999.

  1. Finalfantasy

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    He is a veteran and plays pf, which are what we need now. Why did Dawson and Rudy cut him so hastily while the Rockets still need to pay him? Is there a possibility to recruit him at present?
     
  2. heypartner

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    he was cut to reduce the roster down to the legal limit.

    yes, he's available to any team he wants him.

    i wouldn't call him a power forward any more than bullard.
     
  3. When they cut Maclean the Rox weren't over the player limit.

    They cut Maloney, and Maclean with two IR spots still open.

    To me it makes absolutely no sense to cut to players you have to pay 5 million a season when you have a spot to put them. Look at how the Rox have been decimated with injuries so far. Thats why teams use up their IR slots.
     
  4. bballfanatic

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    I actually wondered too why we didn't just put them on IR since we have to pay them anyway. I thought we would pick up a couple of other players but haven't except for Gray for Chuck.

    I thought MacLean was trying really hard to make the team and he has a sweet shot. But I heard he couldn't play enought defense and we already have Matt Bullard for the 3 point specialist. I hated to lose MacLean though.

    NOw, I want a BIG, OTIS THORPE type power forward. Anything is possible. No offense to Carlos. He is doing a fine job out there. I like his hustle. Of course, it will be Cato probably when Dream comes back. Hopefully in just three more weeks!
     
  5. Rocketability

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    Who knows Charles would end his career so soon? [​IMG]
     
  6. Dr of Dunk

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    The fact that nobody has picked MacLean up ought to be a clue as to how useful he would be to the Rockets. If you put him in, opponents would light him up. All this talk about Mack, MacLean, and Murray... the 3 Misfits. I don't get what the attraction is to these guys. I.... just.... don't.... get it. You can probably sign somebody from the CBA that could do you more good than MacLean would.

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  7. Finalfantasy

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    We need some experienced tough veterans right now in the worst way, that's not what most other teams need right now, and CBA experience is nowhere near NBA's. We pay someone 5 millions and don't utilize him, that's ridiculous and I don't think MaClean would do worse than Walt Williams. So why didn't we keep him on the roster for situation like this--injuries and unideal performance of other players-- is still unanswered. I really don't understand this, along with the Sam Mack issue.
     
  8. heypartner

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    dream,

    I think we're splitting hairs here. The Rockets official report was cutting because they were over the limit.

    As far as using the IR spots in a less than intended manner...yeah everyone days it. But if you have a disaster and need to put two starters on IR...you're loaded to the brim, and you do not believe Maloney or MacLean are better that Devin Gray...

    then you are stuck for 3 games or so, before you can get Gray on the team. I could be wrong, but an IR cannot be activated for 3 games once making the return announcement, same if you cut them from the IR. So, you have all your IR spots occuppied, thus can't get a 10-contract person in there. Let's not discuss the logistics of this ad nauseum, but from my understanding, this is the thinking of GMs...you have people on IR for a reason...not just because you can.

    What it boils down to is Rudy decided he doesn't want Maloney and MacLean. They release them becasue they're over the player limit. We have to eat MacLean's salary because Portland had to match Pippen's salary.

    Rudy obviously knew Devin was available all along and didn't think Maloney or MacLean could play PF. I'm with him all the way. I'd rather give a CBA player a chance than take up an IR spot with Maloney or the glass shoulder of MacLean.
     
  9. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Final,


    Dreamshake meant $5m total for both Maloney and MacLean.

    What is there not to understand: Rudy doesn't believe they have a spot on the roster...that means they get cut.

    MacLean is not that good. Look at it this way. The Rockets must pay his salary. ANY TEAM can sign him now, and WE still have to pay that salary!!! Apparently, other teams are not even interested in giving this guy a spot for the minimum. He's just not that good!
     
  10. TheFreak

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    MacLean is not that good. Look at it this way. The Rockets must pay his salary. ANY TEAM can sign him now, and WE still have to pay that salary!!! Apparently, other teams are not even interested in giving this guy a spot for the minimum. He's just not that good!

    Exactly.

    Where would MacLean be playing right now? Ahead of our 1st-round pick Kenny Thomas? Makes a lot of sense. We're not going anywhere this season, so instead of playing our young players, let's stick in a stiff in their place and stunt their development.

    The IR is for players that are injured. The Rockets did a service to these guys by cutting them loose in hopes they could catch on somewhere else, since they knew they weren't in our plans. Don't get mad at them for doing the ethical thing.
     
  11. Finalfantasy

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    Dayam, now the scrub king Maloney is picked up by the Miami while we pay his salary. The whole damn thing starts to look stupid.
     
  12. Rocket Fan

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    what maloney was picked up?
     
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    when we cut maloney did we waive all rights to him or could we still trade his rights to teh heat for Ot or something? i know one of my friends played baseball in the minors and theres differnts kinds of releases
     
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    I have to agree with you Dr of Dunk. We would be much better off signing someone from the CBA because Maclean just can't play defense and that is the last thing this team needs.
    Once Maloney is picked up by another team, I think we stop paying his salary. He only gets paid while he's not on an NBA roster. If the Heat sign him they would become the only team paying him. I think this is how it works, let me know if I'm wrong.
     
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    We dropped the guy because he is Matt Bullard with less range and a bigger contract and even less defense. If Matt Bullard ever saw Mclean it would have devistating effects. It would be like Back to the Future if Michael J. Fox sees himself. It could alter the space time continuim, or some such nonsense.
     
  16. heypartner

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    Steve_Francis

    No. Your salary rule is not correct. You can never purge your team via releases just to gain cap room. Think about it, that would happen much more often, if it were the case. For instance, the Bulls could have released Toni Kukoc in the summer and surely someone would have picked him up?

    If another team signs a released player, the new team pays only the pro-rated minimum salary to the player (as long as the player has cleared waivers). The player's original team continues to pay the balance of the player's salary.

    sorry for the bad news...we get roughly $500K cap relief for someone signing Maloney.
     
  17. Francis3

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    I hear toni kukoc wants to go to europe and play there.
     
  18. Finalfantasy

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    If the Heat signed Maloney we should have packed him with MaClean for a 2nd round pick. Pray to god Baloney doesn't play well under Patton's rules.
     

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