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Virginia school board votes to restore Confederate names to two schools

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  1. Ubiquitin

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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/us/shenandoah-county-confederate-school-names-reaj/index.html


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    School board members in Virginia’s Shenandoah County voted early Friday to restore the names of two schools that previously honored Confederate leaders – nearly four years after a decision was made to change them.

    The 5-1 vote the school board decided to reinstate the names Stonewall Jackson High School and Ashby Lee Elementary School. The names honor Confederate Gens. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Turner Ashby.

    The schools have been called Mountain View High School and Honey Run Elementary School since July 2021, according to board documents.

    Prior to the vote, several board members criticized how the names were previously changed. Board member Thomas Streett, who voted in favor of restoring the names, described it as a “knee-jerk reaction” that had a lack of involvement from the community.
     
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    “I ask that when you cast your vote, you remember that Stonewall Jackson and others fighting on the side of the Confederacy in this area were intent on protecting the land, the buildings and the lives of those under attack,”
     
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    They seem to forget the Southerners attacked first.
     
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    They also conveniently forgot which States rights they were fighting to protect.

    It’s not as if these elementary schools are confederate institutions, or were founded by the confederate persons.

    “The dedication of Confederate monuments and the use of Confederate names and other iconography began shortly after the Civil War ended in 1865. But two distinct periods saw significant spikes.

    The first began around 1900 as Southern states were enacting Jim Crow laws to disenfranchise African Americans and re-segregate society after several decades of integration that followed Reconstruction. It lasted well into the 1920s, a period that also saw a strong revival of the Ku Klux Klan. Many of these monuments were sponsored by the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The second period began in the mid-1950s and lasted until the late 1960s, the period encompassing the modern civil rights movement.”
     
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    The biggest stain in US politics in the post civil war period was ending reconstruction.
     
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  6. Amiga

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    winner gets to write history
     
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    Good
    Those people are dead for hundreds of years and does not affect the issues today that happen outside the 2 or 3 people who actually knew they were confederates and were woked about it

    You can change the name to Wakanda or Xavier’s school for the gifted or Hogswart

    doesn’t change any problems for the schools
    @ROXRAN
    @Salvy
     
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    @AroundTheWorld
    @Salvy @ROXRAN
    Isn’t the whole point of education is education ?
    Here’s one in New York where there’s some weird naming elite high school that you can only get in if your grades on tests are good

    but people think it’s racism
     
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    Disappointing. Tried to tell the wife that VA might be an acceptable alternative to Texas because it is more purple and then they do this.
     
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    I think it's a bad idea to name things in honor of people.
     
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    Sounds like they should just put it to a community vote, then. If the community votes to name the schools after Confederate "heroes", that certainly sends a strong signal to others who may be looking to settle there about what kind of community it is. Why should something as politically divisive as this and that would undoubtedly reflect on the community as a whole be decided only by board members?
     
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    Shenandoah County voted 70/30 Trump in 2020.

    It's really not indicative of the State as a whole.

    Hard to say. South Carolina declared their succession and then after the federal troops on their land refused to leave they forced them out.
     
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    From what I can tell, it's a lot like Texas: the DC metro area - along with Richmond and Virginia Beach - is very, very blue and the rural areas are uniformly red. It's just that there are a lot more people in the DC area and less red areas to compete with. Texas is huge.
     
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    The deep blue is confined to pretty much Charlottesville, Richmond, NNN (Norfolk & Newport News), and NOVA (FFX, Arlington, Alexandria, Loudon, PW). VA Beach demographics are older and heavily military, so it's a mixed bag.

    There's a lot of red lean counties and a handful of deep red ones.
     
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    hundreds of years? you sure about that? 2024-1865 = 159.

    so youre not only bad at math, but youre also ignorant when it comes to american history.

    at least wakanda or xavier never committed treason and fought a war against our country in defense of slavery.
     
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    You know what? I don't give a **** about this, if they want to name their school after a Traitor so what, that is what their community wants.

    We have to stop arguing about culture war bullshit, and start dealing in what is killing this country....LOBBYISTS.

    DD
     
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    I hear what you are saying. But, I bet there are plenty of people in that community that are disgusted by this. I feel for them. Imagine being a black person that has to go to a school named after a confederate general.
     
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    Why not a Hitler High School?
    Maybe a nice Osama Bin Laden High?

    Those would be lovely right? I mean Mussolini made the trains move on time.

    Rocket River
     
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    30% of Mountain View High School's students are Black.

    I'm not black so I cannot say for sure, but I would imagine It's hard to feel that your school board has your best interest at heart when they tell you they're going to rename your high school after a man that fought and killed people in order to keep you in slavery.
     
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    Everything is named after people
    We don’t name things after insects or fish

    @Salvy
     
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