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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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    https://www.france24.com/en/middle-...of-residents-from-southern-gaza-city-of-rafah

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    • Israel called on residents from more areas of Rafah in the Gaza Strip to evacuate and head to the “expanded humanitarian area” in Al-Mawasi, according to a post on social media site X by the military’s Arabic-language spokesperson.
    • The Israeli army said rockets were launched Saturday from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the Kerem Shalom crossing, which was temporarily shut earlier this week. "Four launches were identified that crossed from the Rafah area," the military said in a statement.
    • President Joe Biden on Saturday said a Gaza ceasefire would be possible "tomorow" if Hamas released all the hostages. It was his first remarks on the Gaza war since a US State Department report released Friday that it was “reasonable to assess” that Israel has used US-supplied weapons in ways inconsistent with international humanitarian law during the Gaza war.
    • At least 34,971 Palestinians have been killed and 78,641 wounded in Israel’s military offensive in Gaza, according to the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory. Some 1,170 people were killed in the Hamas-led October 7 attacks and 250 people were taken hostage, according to Israeli figures, with 132 still missing.
     
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    The civilians Hamas killed were not collateral damage. They were deliberately targeted. They weren't hanging out at the military bases that Hamas attacked, they were at a music festival, in their homes, hiding in shelters, etc. Hamas could have killed zero civilians and gotten just as many soldiers, because Israel has military bases where the soldiers and equipment are located. Israel cannot attack Hamas without killing civilians, because Hamas hides behind the civilians, using them as human shields. They operate out of schools and hospitals and mosques. That's the difference. It isn't about the numbers, it is about the intent.
    I don't think you understand what the term collateral damage means. When you are attacking a target and non target people/buildings/equipment/whatever are destroyed, that non-target destruction is collateral damage. There is no magic number at which it transmogrifies into not collateral damage, if the intent is to hit a target (ie Hamas) any damage done to not Hamas is collateral damage. There is no necessity of some mathematical calculation where you have to ensure it takes exactly some amount of other deaths to get the target. The idea of proportionality is concerned with those ratios, and some level of collateral damage can be determined to be disproportionate. It doesn't stop being collateral damage though.
     
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    i recall you supporting Bibi supporting hummus remember: don’t try to weasel yourself out of this one

    both humus and Bibi like dead children aka your favorite pastime

    don’t blame your Walmart scooter and cheetoh fingers for typing that out
     
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    You dipshits keep spewing the same bogus talking point. Biden has never told IDF they can't invade rafah. He's demanding they have aid and food for 1.4 million people which Israel refuses to do.

    Just admit you're a right wing donkey who's a genocidal maniac. That's who you are
     
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    I retract my podcast recommendation. The host is a right wing anti-semite. Go figure.

    He is anti-trans, anti-BLM, anti-socialist, anti-immigrants, anti-Biden, and anti-Zionism.

    edit: I am really disappointed in myself for not doing more due diligence on it.
     
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    What's wrong about being opposed to socialism?
     
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    Perhaps.
     
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    Perchance.
     
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    As opposed to neutral toward or being pro-socialist.

    He is very much a Tucker Carlson Conservative.
     
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    Probably more a green light to attack Qatar than anything else. I doubt Israel does not also know exactly where the senior Hamas leadership are.
     
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    Israel won't attack Qatar.
     
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    I oppose the woke virus
    And the fat positivity
     
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    Agreed

    they need to blow up ALL the tunnels they built

    and take over larger portions of Gaza to create a much larger buffer zone
     
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