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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

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    That isn't maximizing collateral damage. It is setting an upper limit on collateral damage that you disagree with. Maximizing collateral damage would be to kill everyone in Gaza in the effort to kill Hamas fighters.
     
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    Leftists are fine with this. They support Hamas and want to keep it in power.

    Decent people want to free "Palestine" - from Hamas.
     
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    @LosPollosHermanos gets excited when Hamas vicariously beats the gazan women without holding back , plus he believes everything "according to Hamas"

    Hamas is going to chalk this up to more "Palestinians casualties" - The great thing is as they kill these good for nothing civilians, it simply gets blamed on Israel from the perspective of Hamas ...
    The great thing is, I think people are getting fed up of Hamas in Gaza as they are getting TFO of Rafah - Idiot Biden should be helping Israel finish off Hamas -why is Biden protecting Hamas?
     
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    Hey, we have video of college students declaring that "they are Hamas" , well this is what you are - and once again, this is only the recorded video which does not include likely numerous examples of non video instances -
     
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    A collateral damage that most would disagree with.

    In the October 7 attack, Hamas killed 766 civilians and 373 security forces. That's a 2 to 1 civilian to soldier ratio. If you are intentionally allowing a 10:1, 15:1, or 100:1 ratio, you have a worse ratio than what Hamas did on October 7th.
     
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    Disgusting.
     
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    But @astros123 said they have no plan?
     
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    That's technically not collateral damage anymore because you can't ensure it takes exactly the population of Gaza to kill exactly the population of Hamas. That's fully premeditated.

    They have codified their values: 20 innocent civilians of any age for any single Hamas militant. So for 40,000 Hamas they're willing to kill around 800,000 innocent humans. That's a third of the population. You're right it's so nice of them to not nuke the place. They're being so kind hearted.

    Also, it's been reported they're fully aware the names Lavender provides them with contain plenty of errors (as in: innocent people). They still authorized the killings in case it's an operative. Is that collateral damage too?

    Crazy to think that there's still a shrinking minority of people in the world who believe Israel's PR about this. Collateral damage has become a meme of its own. Thankful that the majority of Americans have finally come to their senses about this stuff.
     
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    Hahahahahaha @Commodore said the IDF have evacuation plans for the 1.4 million?! Oh wow! It has to be true ! Commodore obviously has more intel than the state Department lololol

    How in the hell are you a successful business exec when you have the iq of @tinman .
     

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