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It's a matter of Bidenomics!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jun 28, 2023.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    I hate Trump but most reasonable people don’t think Trump didn’t create any jobs. That sort of technical BS just doesn’t resonate
     
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    "How dare you talk with facts don't you know vibes matter more!!"

    Sorry if it hurts but facts show trumps tenure resulted in negative job growth and higher unemployment. You're just making my point how "vibes" matter than facts

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/08/trump-jobs-record/
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    It doesn’t hurt me…

    Trying to explain why no reasonable person would think Trump didn’t create any jobs. Sometimes being technically correct just makes you look silly and big mad. Of course vibes will sometimes matter more than facts, that’s just life.

    Biden has done a terrible job at communicating so unfortunately he’s made it easy for vibes over facts.
     
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    Trump gets zero fault for the millions of job loses that happened during the pandemic but somehow biden gets all the blame from the covid inflation that occurred in every country.

    Trump hardly created any jobs even before covid. Trump was averaging 180k votes before covid even occurred. Trump was a shitty jobs president who didn't accomplish anything.

    It's just so amazing how Americans are so clueless about Trump
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    Zero fault? Hyperbole only weakens your argument.

    While I don’t think it’s fair Biden gets most of the blame, democrats need to do a better job at communicating. Like it or not, the right media all pretty much pushes the same narrative while the MSM actually has some nuance and will be negative towards democrats and conservatives.
     
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    @adoo the trump tax cuts cost more than 3 trillion dollars and somehow the right leaning donks want to claim its dems that blow up the debt @Space Ghost

    Brainwashing at its finest
     
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    @dmoneybangbang vibes>>>>>>>>>>>>facts

    Truth doesn't matter anymore. Whoever can spew the most disinformation and conspiracies wins. It's what trump feeds off of
     
  8. Xopher

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    The Party of "**** your feelings" sure has a lot of feelings.
     
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  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Like I said..... right wing media bubble pushes a narrative in solidarity and the Biden admin is terrible at communicating.
     
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    @adoo another instance of corporate price fixing to keep prices up
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    Maybe your lord and savior should pass a law that allows people to buy raw land and build a house. It's atrocious that these home builders have a complete monopoly
     
  12. astros123

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    Biden has proposed the biggest deregulation proposal the housing industry has ever seen. He's already gotten rid of parking minimums on certain federal projects and is pushing permitting reform right now in congress.

    Meanwhile trump is a hardcore NIMBY crying about the need of zoning. But who cares about facts when you're a loser who gets all of his facts from zerohedge. Donkeys

     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Parking is one of the biggest issues when it comes to housing. Cyber Cab will fix this problem.

    Maybe Biden should get rid of permits and restrictions. Housing will be a big boom then.
     
  14. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Getting rid of zoning restrictions would be good, 10 points to Biden for that. Getting rid of the red tape of building would be even better, but that is more of a state/local issue. Building a house should be the easiest and most painless it can be. There is no reason for there to be a housing shortage anywhere, there is more than enough room for everyone for the time being. Housing monopolies are entirely a creation of regulation. It just doesn't cost that much to build housing (in comparison to average home costs).
     
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    Agree with you 100000% . We have the most deranged ancient building regulations anywhere in the world. There's no reason it should take years to get permits to build a damn apartment complex.

    Its not just housing but all construction. NEPA environmental regulatory framework we have is some of the most deranged rules we have. It takes us years to build anything in this country.

    When it comes to building regulations I'm as libertarian as anyone. We have too much red tape in this country

     
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    link should work for everyone

    Why Biden Is Losing on the Economy
    The average annual inflation rate during his Presidency is 5.5%. Under Trump it was 1.9%.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bi...aj709corm2y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    excerpt:

    Democrats and the press keep telling Americans that they don’t know how good they have it. The U.S. economy is great, Bidenomics is the reason, and don’t worry, be happy. Yet the voters, those numbskulls, keep telling pollsters they don’t feel the boom and they don’t approve of President Biden’s economic performance.

    If our friends on the left want to stop berating voters and admit reality, they might look at the chart nearby from Dan Clifton of Strategas Research Partners. It compares the average annual consumer-price inflation rate across the first term of the last eight presidencies. As you can see, Mr. Biden’s average inflation rate of 5.5% is second only to Jimmy Carter’s average rate of 10.3%, and Mr. Carter wasn’t re-elected.
    more at the link
     
  17. adoo

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    WHY BIDEN IS WINNING THE ECONOMY

    • while Trump had a net loss in job creation his his 4-years, with 8-9 mos to go, Biden has already generated ~~~ 15 million jobs
    • having inherited a 6.3% unemployment from Trump, w 8-9 mos to go, Biden has already lowered it to 3.9%



    Trump's Final Numbers, lost 2.9 Million Jobs, unemployment rose from 4.7% to 6.3%


    Trump’s Final Numbers, Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.

    Trump was the only POTUS, post WW2, whose policies have have led to a net loss in job creaton. Also, His administration had hyped about infrastructure week 8 times; nothing got done, not even a plan.


    • The economy. during the Trump presidency, lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.

    • Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.7% after inflation.

    • After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records. The S&P 500 index rose 67.8%.

    • The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.

    • The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.

    • The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.

    • Home prices rose 27.5%, and the homeownership rate increased 2.1 percentage points to 65.8%.

    • Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.

    • Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%.

    • Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.

    • The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.

    • Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats.


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  18. astros123

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    I'm happy that you're so embarrassed of yourself after that 450+ page biden impeachment thread you created. You posted 5+ OPeds every day for 2 years straight claiming the smoking gun would be released any day now and biden would be exposed.

    You actually thought biden would resign due to the smoking gun. What a utter moron
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Most permits and restrictions on building are at the state and local level.
     
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  20. rocketsjudoka

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    What you pay isn’t the annual average. Just because gas prices spiked last year doesn’t mean that I paid the average annual price at the pump when I filled up yesterday.
     

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