Dude there is no one who says Jalen was as good as Ant at the same time. There's lots of people who say they have similar career progression. It's widely understood Jalen is a year or two behind that level of impact. People were on Edwards for his underwhelming advanced metrics and mediocre TS% all season. You're just cherry picking the recent news of a good young player stepping up big time. So where the guy who said they are exactly the same and went quiet?
Efficiency x volume x defense is pretty much everything, though. Jalen currently only has 1 of those locked down (volume). Efficiency and defense are maybe somewhat improving? But still have a ways to go on both of those fronts.
The volume is not even deserved but Udoka let that slide because of the heavy rhythm player he is. At this point, want to see what Amen, Cam and Jabari do with high volume.
Not everything but its a big part of eventually becoming a successful player. Especially for a guy who's calling card is scoring.
So like gary harris? He was real efficient howd that work out? No there are other things that are also really important, not just 3pt%. Otherwise jimmer freddette would have been an all star instead of overseas. Take rim shot creation, jalen was 2nd and alpi was 3rd out of all 3rd yr players behind cade. Rim Shot Creation evaluates how well a player can self-create opportunities at the rim. Note: this metric doesn't care about assisted shots at the rim. A player driving and getting to the rim, or posting up and creating their own shots at the rim, will be credited. Thats something that has a lot of value. Being able to actually create offense for yourself is much more difficult to do than knock down open 3s. Its why so many players with bad shooting get drafted high, because its a relatively easier learned skill. Wheras all the otherstuff is harder to learn and sometimes not teachable like athleticism. Im not downplaying efficiency importance btw. I think its very important. I think its very important to Jalen specifically. What i am saying tho, is sometimes people focus waaay too hard on it with developing players. Udoka said multiple multiple times this year he didnt care about the result of the shot with Jalen but rather did he make the right read and take the correct shots. In that specific area he got much better as the season went on. The gap between him and the league average 3pt% was 1 made 3 every 4th game. Thats it. I want him more efficeint and i think its what is standing in his way to becoming a star player but i can also look at basketball outside of just hyper focusing on efficiency even if i think its one of the most important aspects of basketball.
I like how the hilarious defense of Jalen Green has devolved into people denying the importance of scoring efficiency for a SG during an era of the highest scoring efficiency in NBA history. To put this graphic in context, Jalen Green's Points Per 100 Possessions was 107 this season. The Memphis Grizzlies, the least efficient offense in the NBA averaged 107.2 Points Per 100 Possessions. Scoring efficiently doesn't mean that you are going to be a great player...but NOT scoring efficiently means that you won't be a great player during this era. Now if you want to argue that scoring efficiency doesn't matter for a lockdown defensive specialist....sure, I can see scenarios where that would be valid....but not for a chucker of a SG that is mediocre at best defensively.
The fluke is reaching Saint Issa type status The anti say he should be consistent like Luka etc right now with his ts% Then he is only 36-38% three point shot away from all star/all nba(march version)....which is crazy to say out loud if he is such a scrub and a miss/make player(inconsistent bad) Now they are comparing his solo possessions to an NBA Team..... And got the audacity to call others hilarious etc They scared of 23-game/March fluke version that's on deck this upcoming 4th season
You just said it, people said they have a similar career progression thats not the case. They are 6 months apart in age, Jalen at the end of the season is not what Ant was at the beginning of the season. You can not say they are on the same career progression and say he is 2 years behind, thats not the same progression when they are 6 months apart. Your statement itself proves exactly what I was saying by providing those points.
You're just making things up bro. Of course we can say someone's progression is the same but delayed by a year. Of course we can say one plays with more power the other with more speed. Go back to your original post. Look how much the goal posts have moved. You were claiming there's someone who thinks Green is as good as Edwards and now they're quiet or comparing him to lesser players. There's no such thing. You made to this character just to make fun of it, I just don't understand why.
You can't say I make things up when you literally posted all of my points for me in your own post. Look up what the word progression means. "There's lots of people who say they have similar career progression" Jalen and Ant are both 22. "A progression is a series that advances in a logical and predictable pattern." "It's widely understood Jalen is a year or two behind that level of impact" When you change the timeline and pattern of one player and try to compare it to another player with a different pattern, then it does not make sense to me. I honestly do not have interest in learning about your made up definition of things either.
Isn't Ant about to turn 23 and is a year ahead of.him in experience and was drafted the year before Green and both joined the NBA one year after high school?
It's not fair to talk about how old Jalen Green actually is, you're supposed to pretend he's 19 years old and that it's acceptable that he sucks at basketball.... then transition into saying he doesn't suck and that he never sucked.... then back into it's okay that he sucks because he's just 19. That's how this has gone for 3 years now.
