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Luhnow's absence looms larger by the day

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Plowman, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. Plowman

    Plowman Contributing Member
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    There's been a gradual erosion over the last 2-3 years, and now it's picking up speed/manifesting itself....across the board.
     
  2. astrosrule

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    When you lose the greatest to ever do it, that's what happens.
     
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    Click, as I thought when he got the can, was going to be a GM that was appreciated in Hindsight. I think we were in good hands with him, and would probably be in a better spot if he was still there. Obviously Lunhow would have been way better.

    Dana Brown sucks
     
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    When your GM speaks spanish fluently you can sign many players (R.Blanco). Engineered the greatest trade ever for Yordan, the worst trade ever for the Dodgers. Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran brought it from other teams to dirty the Astros.
     
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  5. jim1961

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    In Luhnow we trust.
    In Dana we bust.
     
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    I mean that’s why the MLB made Crane fire him. You do the crime you have consequences.

    Sucks for us as fans though.
     
  7. No Worries

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    2022 World Series Champs
    2023 1 win away from World Series
     
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  8. Hank McDowell

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    Bring him back. **** it! I'm not at all confident in the organization as it's being run right now. Clown show comes to mind...
     
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    Fans from other teams thought we got off too easy just having to fire the manager and GM. Educated Astros fans knew that firing Luhnow was the worst possible punishment. No one thought it would manifest itself overnight....but eventually it will mean the premature end of this golden era of Astros baseball.
     
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    baseball gods said we'll give you another chance with Click and what did we do?

    pissed it away. click ain't no luhnow but he was the closest thing to it. not to say luhnow was perfect. they all have faults but luhnow was the astros chosen one.
     
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    Astros lost 2 first and 2 second round picks under Luhnow's watch. What happened while he was GM is a big reason why we're lacking prospects to help the team in 2024.
     
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    Yep, it is likely that at least one of those 4 lost picks would now be a good pitching prospect who would’ve been called up before Arrighetti and definitely before Henley.
     
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    Bring him back.
     
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  14. Nick

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    Why can't Luhnow get another job in baseball? Why can't Click get another GM job?
     
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  15. IdStrosfan

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    Luhnow has been blackballed which is largely self-inflicted.

    Long before his suspension, was disliked by the established "baseball guys" because of his innovative ideas and by others because of his cockiness.

    Since, he has shown no remorse or accountability.

    And there is the fact that he hasn't tried and apparently doesn't want to.

    As for Click, I think he will get one but is probably being much more careful of the situation he gets himself into. Memory of his words at the GM meetings must fade a bit more before someone is willing to give him that chance, also.
     
  16. Nick

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    (they were rhetorical questions...)

    Click hasn't been on anybody's radar nor do I think being a full-time GM is his strong suit... where you have to be more of a people person/out in front of it all. Luhnow also had issues with that at first... but eventually learned how to navigate the press and further his cut-throat reputation that he's been unofficially banned from the game.

    Didn't all those former Rays guys under Freidman ultimately get either fired or left their GM gig? Bloom, Click, anybody else? All of them more comfortable behind a computer. They can be the execs but really need to have a front-line person for media handling, negotiations with players, negotiations with other teams, etc.
     
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    They should speak through an interpreter.
     
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    The easy answer regarding Luhnow is baseball always scapegoats people/players. Luhnow may very well have deserved to be fired and suspended. Blackballed? Probably not.

    MLB will never be accountable for all the sh** they know and allow. So easy for them to shift the blame and act like they had no idea whatever the scandal of that era is/was. They freaking know.

    This is why I say let the Astros go full heel and hire Luhnow back. Eff’em all.
     
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  19. Rockets34Legend

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    Even if we lost those, I bet if we still kept him on, he would still work magic and somehow recover from the loss with finding diamonds in the rough.
     
  20. astrosrule

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    This is extremely false as no other team was forced to fire their gm. It was a pure witch-hunt because they wanted luhnow gone. Don’t try to change history, be honest about what it was
     

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