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Top 20 SG's?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Nikos, Aug 11, 2004.

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  1. Nikos

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    From this list, what are your top 20 Sgs, I threw in VC and Pierce in this, but some might argue they are 3's, same with Spree at this stage of his career and given his wingmate and respective role on his team.....What is your Top 20...in order?
    Also I have considered Artest and Maggette as SF's even tho they might end up playing SG's if they had certain teamattes who better fit their opposing position etc....

    allen,ray
    anderson,derek
    barry,brent
    barry,jon
    bell,raja
    bogans,keith
    brewer,jamison
    brown,devin
    brown,kedrick
    bryant,kobe
    carter,vince
    christie,doug
    crawford,jamal
    daniels,marquis
    finley,michael
    ginobili,emanuel
    giricek,gordan
    hamilton,richard
    hardaway,anferne
    hassell,trenton
    hoiberg,fred
    houston,allan
    hughes,larry
    iverson,allen
    james,lebron
    johnson,joe
    jones,eddie
    kittles,kerry
    lenard,voshon
    mcgrady,tracy
    miller,reggie
    mobley,cuttino
    patterson,ruben
    pierce,paul
    redd,michael
    richardson,jason
    richardson,quent
    rose,jalen
    rush,kareem
    sprewell,latrell
    sura,bob
    wade,dwyane
    wells,bonzi
    welsch,jiri
    wesley,david


    so how about it?
     
  2. RNuss02

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    I'll go ahead and play along...again. Shear bordom is the name of the game.

    1) bryant,kobe
    2) mcgrady,tracy
    3) pierce,paul
    4) james,lebron
    5) hamilton,richard
    6) iverson,allen
    7) allen,ray
    8) carter,vince
    9) redd,michael
    10) sprewell,latrell
    11) finley,michael
    12) wade,dwyane
    13) barry,brent
    14) mobley,cuttino
    15) wells bonzi
    16) ginobili,emanuel
    17) jones,eddie
    18) miller, reggie
    19) richardson, jason
    20) rose,jalen
     
  3. oldman

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    im bored too.....

    1.mcgrady,tracy
    2.bryant,kobe
    3.pierce,paul
    4.carter,vince
    5.iverson,allen
    6.james,lebron
    7.redd,michael
    8.allen,ray
    9.wade,dwyane
    10.sprewell,latrell
    11.hamilton,richard
    12.johnson,joe
    13.finley,michael
    14.crawford,jamal
    15.houston,allan
    16.rose,jalen
    17.mobley,cuttino
    18.ginobili,emanuel
    19.jones,eddie
    20.richardson,quentin
     
  4. dharocks

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    Twenty is way too much, especially considering that there are only 30 teams in the league... I'll go with top 10.

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Tracy McGrady
    3. Ray Allen
    4. Paul Pierce
    5. LeBron James
    6. Michael Redd
    7. Vince Carter
    8. Rip Hamilton
    9. Michael Finley
    10. Cuttino Mobley


    NOTE: I left off AI because he's expected to spend most of next season at the point.
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    1. kobe
    2. tmac
    3. vince (assuming health here)
    4. pierce
    5. AI
    6. ray ray
    7. lebron
    8. rip
    9. redd
    10. mobley
     
  6. rocket3forlife2

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    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Tracy McGrady
    3. LeBron James
    4. Paul Pierce
    5. Rip Hamilton
    6. Ray Allen
    7. vince
    8. redd,michael
    9. Michael Finley
    10 mobley,cuttino
    11. ginobili,emanuel
    12. jones,eddie
    13 richardson,quentin
    14 sprewell,latrell16
    15. rose,jalen
     
  7. JumpMan

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    01. Kobe Bryant
    02. Allen Iverson
    03. Paul Pierce
    04. Tracy McGrady
    05. Vince Carter
    06. Ray Allen
    07. Lebron James

    Not really anyone else after those guys that blow the rest away, Richard Hamilton I guess.
     
  8. emjohn

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    I'm going to base this (in order) according to (1) general scoring ability, (2) FG%, (3) general defense, (4) 3 Pt FG%, (5) versatility. Bonus points for being on a playoff team, and I reserve the right to kick off any "good numbers on a crappy team" guys (Maggette, Richardson).

    I suppose the big question here is Kobe vs McGrady. Their numbers (PPG, FG%, assists) are nearly a dead heat, and it's a tough read when they've been in opposite situations. On one hand, you can say that Kobe's life was made easier with Shaq on board and McGrady had to deal with defenses focused only on him. On the flipside, a Laker fan would say that Kobe couldn't get as many shot attempts while playing with Shaq as TMac could as the only scoring option (the numbers do support this).

    To break the tie, I've got to go deeper. McGrady's better from long range, can block more shots (though he quit trying by year 3 in Orlando), and does better on the boards (though again, those last two could be attributed to Shaq being around in LA). Finally, McGrady didn't run the most dominate big man in the game out of town, and while reportedly considered a slouch by some, he's isn't regarded as the biggest prick in the game. Therefore:

    1. Tracy McGrady
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Allen Iverson (we all know he's not a PG)
    4. Vince Carter
    5. Paul Pierce
    6. Michael Redd
    7. Rip Hamilton
    8. Ray Allen
    9. Cuttino Mobley
    10. Michael Finley

    Hon.Ment. Latrell Spreewell, Manu Ginobilli

    Evan
     
  9. Milos

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    bryant,kobe
    mcgrady,tracy
    pierce,paul
    iverson,allen
    hamilton,richard
    allen,ray
    james,lebron
    carter,vince
    finley,michael
    redd,michael
    houston,allan
    wade,dwyane
    ginobili,emanuel
    sprewell,latrell
    rose,jalen
    mobley,cuttino
    christie,doug
    hughes,larry
    richardson,quent
    johnson,joe
     
  10. HAYJON02

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    1. T-Mac
    2. Mobley

    ehhh there's my list.
     
  11. indaclubam2pm

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    1. bryant,kobe
    2. mcgrady,tracy
    3. carter,vince
    4. iverson,allen
    5. james,lebron
    6. pierce,paul
    7. redd,michael
    8. allen,ray
    9. finley,michael
    10. richardson,jason
    11. hamilton,richard
    12. houston,allan
    13. mobley,cuttino
    14. wells,bonzi
    15. sprewell,latrell
    16. rose,jalen
    17. crawford,jamal
    18. johnson,joe
    19. christie,doug
    20. jones,eddie
     
  12. shawn786

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    You really think AI & Pierce are better than T-mac?
     
  13. JumpMan

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    Yes, AI for sure, Pierce and Tracy can flip flop with no argument from me, but Pierce has accomplished more.
     
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    the first three are no-brainers in my opinion, but come on: How can Lebron James be one of the best SG's if the guy cannot shoot?? Also how can you put Redd ahead of Carter?

    1. Kobe
    2. T-Mac
    3. Pierce
    4. A.I.
    5. Carter
    6. Ray Allen
    7. Rip Hamilton
    8. Micheal Redd
    9. L. James
    10. D. Wayde
    11. M. Finley
    12. L. Sprewell
    13. Ginobili
    14. Mobley
    15. J. Richardson
    16. J. Rose
    17. Q-Rich
    18. B. Wells
    19. Doug Christie
    20. Eddie Jones, Jamal Crawford, Joe Johnson
     
  15. JBIIRockets

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    I see a couple of posts that have T-Mac as #1 and Kobe as the 2nd best.

    I am Rockets fan with the best of them, but Kobe is better than McGrady, and there should not even be a debate.
     
  16. dharocks

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    Because he's the strongest, most athletic guard in the league.

    Carter is all reputation. Let's compare stats:

    Michael Redd: 21.7ppg, 5.0rpg, 2.6apg, .440 FG%, .350 3PT%, .868 FT%

    Vince Carter: 22.5ppg, 4.4rpg, 4.0apg, .417 FG%, .383 PT%, .806 FT%

    It's hard to argue that Vince has a great advantage over Redd. Both are weak defenders. Vince has been playing tentantive the last few seasons, really ever since he missed the last shot against the Sixers.
     
  17. Hmm

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    Mhm.. Well, that explains that. :rolleyes:
     
  18. dugtzu

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    funny, because ive seen loads of debate...
     
  19. JumpMan

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    Name one thing Tracy has done that Bryant, AI, and Pierce havn't done besides lead the league in scoring.
     
  20. emjohn

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    Why not? Does pure talent count for everything, or do the intangibles matter? Can one player make his team better despite not having as much scoring ability as another?

    Evan
     

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