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Are the Rockets even interested in Scoot?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HealthyHamstring, May 22, 2023.

  1. matchesmalone

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    I can’t imagine a better young 1-2 punch at PG and SG than Henderson and Green but the price is probably way too high.
     
  2. Francis3422

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    I mean Charlotte can still get Miller or Whitmore at 4.

    #4/#20/2024 Brooklyn pick and KMJ is fair for both parties.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    How about #4, #20, Brooklyn pick 2024, KPJ
     
  4. HTX Ninja

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    I think that's a fair offer but I'm wondering how many other teams that might beat that offer or overpay.
     
  5. Francis3422

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    Id throw in Porter if necessary.
     
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  6. YOLO

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    If it wasn’t for a generational Wemby, he obviously would be arguably the top pick along with Miller. Looks like he did just fine making himself a sure fire top pick. I couldn’t careless if he didn’t score 30 a night in a pick up game league. Some Players dominate college every year and in the end aren’t even nba caliber players. That’s nothing new. It was a waste of his time. Nix is absolute trash. Who tf cares about him
     
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  7. NewAge

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    I just don’t think you can go from middling against G-league guards to bullying NBA guards.
    Top-notch prospect for sure. But may be years away. It will be surprising if he pops right away.
     
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    Recent highly-lauded, top-5 guard prospects have a good track record of being starting-caliber right away.

    Rookie season stats:

    Ja Morant - 17.8 points, 7.3 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 47/33/77 shooting
    Cade Cunningham - 17.4 points, 6.0 assists, 6.2 rebounds, 41/31/84 shooting
    Jalen Green - 17.3 points, 2.6 assists, 3.4 rebounds, 42/34/79 shooting
    Jaden Ivey - 16.3 points, 5.2 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 41/34/74 shooting
    Anthony Edwards - 19.3 points, 2.9 assists, 4.7 rebounds, 41/33/77 shooting
    LaMelo Ball - 15.7 points, 6.1 assists, 5.9 rebounds, 43/35/75 shooting

    In my view, Scoot is better than all of these guys were as prospects except maybe Ja and Ant (very close between those three if you just look at their tape as pre-draft prospects).

    Also, Scoot wasn't middling in the G-League, he was excellent for his age, especially when he decided to turn it on. He was dinged up with random injuries and didn't really have much to play for this season since his draft stock was already pretty much putting him as a top 3 lock. But, when healthy and in locked-in mode, nobody could stop him and he became utterly dominant. You have to actually watch the games to see what I'm talking about.

    Two years in the G-League is about as good of preparation for stepping right into the NBA as it gets, btw. He's way more prepared than Jalen was, for example, since Jalen only played in a dozen games or whatever it was before getting drafted.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    6 more days to go.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    If his standing reach is equal to that of somebody who is 6-7, and he's built like a tank why would you obsess over his height?

    If Jalen Green had Scoot Henderson's body he'd probably make a lot more shots underneath despite being 1-2 inches shorter
     
  11. NewAge

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    I dunno, man. Kevin Pelton’s secret stat formula that ID-ed Sengun and Tari Eason as top prospects has Henderson at #33. He’s not even the best player on his team, Lenard Miller is. I see the potential with Scoot and he may turn out a top player, but the risks is very very high.
     
  12. Mr. Dominant

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    Thank god we didn’t…

     
  13. clos4life

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    Where did Amen rank on that list?
     
  14. Mathloom

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    Scoot is good he just has that disease Gleague Ignitis. Sets your development back one year. Things will start to click in year 2 or 3. Look at their prospects, that Ignite program was consistently a mess and didn't help anyone.
     
  15. J.R.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/37847803/nba-draft-2023-breaking-30-best-prospects

    Note: There are no projections for players from Overtime Elite (OTE), including Amen and Ausar Thompson, who both are in the top five of ESPN's top 100 prospects.

    3. Cam Whitmore | Villanova | SF
    Top 100: No. 6
    Stats: No. 1
    Consensus: 3.2 WARP

    Whitmore's lone college season, limited by a preseason thumb injury, has made him a polarizing prospect. Whitmore averaged just 0.7 assists per game, one of the lowest marks on record for an NBA-bound draft pick on the perimeter. Combo forward Nassir Little averaged 0.6 per game in his one-and-done season, while Kelly Oubre Jr. was at 0.8.

    On the plus side, Whitmore scores the top stats-only projection in large part because of his strong steal rate (2.1 per 40 minutes) and 58% 2-point shooting in a high-volume role. Another key factor is Whitmore won't turn 19 until July, making him the youngest prospect in ESPN's top 10.


    13. Scoot Henderson | G League Ignite | PG
    Top 100: No. 3
    Stats: No. 33
    Consensus: 2.1 WARP

    Understanding the disconnect between Henderson's middling stats-only projection and the hype around him as a top-two prospect throughout the season will be one of the most important tasks for the teams picking after the San Antonio Spurs later this month. Henderson's per-game stats (16.5 points, 6.5 assists and 5.4 rebounds per game in regular-season play) looked good enough, but they masked a .510 true shooting percentage as compared to a league average of .581.

    The improved 3-point shooting that Henderson showcased in a pair of exhibitions against Wembanyama and Metropolitans 92 was nowhere to be found as he shot 28% in regular-season play. It's possible that Henderson was merely limited by injury and hampered by questionable floor spacing (Ignite was dead last in 3s during the regular season). Players like Henderson have tended to beat their stats-only projections.

    Still, Henderson's play is worth a deep dive from teams considering using a top-three pick on him.

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  16. J.R.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...ranking-top-30-prospects-based-stats-scouting

    1. Alperen Sengun | Center | Besiktas
    Top 100: No. 15
    Stats: No. 1
    Consensus: 4.2 WARP

    This year's top-rated prospect won't surprise anyone who's followed Sengun's domination of the Basketball Super League in his native Turkey. At age 18 (he turned 19 on Sunday), Sengun led the league with 8.9 WARP, nearly 3.5 more than any other player. He was chosen as MVP, producing the third-best stats-only projection in my database behind Luka Doncic and Anthony Davis.

    It's understandable that scouts question whether that production will entirely translate. Sengun's stats-only projection is in the same ballpark as DeJuan Blair and Kenneth Faried, who enjoyed solid careers as role players but were never NBA stars. Still, there's little precedent for anyone as productive as Sengun truly failing as a pro.

    3. Jalen Green | Guard | G League Ignite
    Top 100: No. 2
    Stats: No. 12
    Consensus: 2.7 WARP

    For a teenager competing against players shuttling back and forth from the NBA, Green held his own as part of G League Ignite, an encouraging sign for his long-term prospects. He rated as an above-average player in the G League thanks to efficient scoring (.592 true shooting) while using 23% of Ignite's plays. Green just misses the stats-only top 10.

    8. Usman Garuba | Forward | Real Madrid
    Top 100: No. 14
    Stats: No. 2
    Consensus: 2.3 WARP

    Garuba was a key contributor for Real Madrid in EuroLeague and ACB competition last season as a teenager. Among draft prospects, only Rokas Jokubaitis saw more EuroLeague minutes. Because of his quality teammates, who included NBA veterans Rudy Fernandez and Anthony Randolph, Garuba has the lowest projected usage rate among prospects in the top 80. He's ready to fill a role with his strong rebounding (projected second only to Sengun) and defense.

    28. Daishen Nix | Guard | G League Ignite
    Top 100: No. 40
    Stats: No. 24
    Consensus: 0.7 WARP

    Nix was about as productive overall as Kuminga for Ignite, handing out 7.1 assists per 36 minutes, though his poor shooting is a major concern. Nix shot just 6-of-34 (18%) during his first experience with the NBA 3-point line.

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    2. Jabari Smith | Power forward | Auburn
    Top 100: No. 2
    Stats: No. 7
    Consensus: 3.3 WARP

    The one minor concern about Smith as a top prospect is his solid but unspectacular efficiency. Smith's projected .545 true shooting percentage as an NBA rookie is weaker than league average (.566). To become the dominant scorer he's got the potential to be, Smith will have to turn more of his long 2-point attempts (he shot 38.5% on 2s outside 17 feet, per Synergy Sports tracking) into 3s, which he made at a 42% clip -- or an effective field-goal percentage of 63% when accounting for the extra point.

    8. Tari Eason | Forward | LSU
    Top 100: No. 18
    Stats: No. 5
    Consensus: 2.2 WARP

    It's atypical -- though not unprecedented -- for a top prospect to come off the bench during his last NCAA season. Eason started just four of 33 games at LSU after one year at Cincinnati, yet was easily the team's best player in terms of advanced stats. Eason joins Zion Williamson and Chris Singleton as the third player in my database with projected steal and block rates both better than 2.5%.


    28. TyTy Washington Jr. | Point guard | Kentucky
    Top 100: No. 17
    Stats: No. 45
    Consensus: 1.0 WARP

    Since March, Washington has dropped six spots in the top 100, moving his consensus projection a bit more in line with the stats-only version. Washington believers can point to the track record of Kentucky guards blossoming in the NBA as well as the presence of veteran Sahvir Wheeler forcing Washington to play off the ball much of his lone college season.

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  17. peleincubus

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    What are Peyton’s ranks for this upcoming draft?
     
  18. J.R.

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    Hasn’t released them yet (not that I’ve seen anyways)
     
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  19. MystikArkitect

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    Jalen was this his first year and Scoot is playing on a Blazers team starting all rookies. Really dumb analysis. Scoot will ultimately end up as taller and more athletic FVV.
     
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  20. Mr. Dominant

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    Yeah that could possibly happen.
     

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