Wade couldn’t get Miami past round 1 in that weak conference the 4 years prior to LeBron coming, and even had one of the worst records in basketball one season. You’re overstating them. And when LeBron left they went down the toilet.
lol first off, i led this forum in documenting the officiating of games 6 & 7 of that series. zebras kept the FT totals even between both teams by making up the difference in garbage time secondly, the only game scott foster reffed in this fakers-worriers series... fakers won not worriers third, since the allstar break fakers got an inordinate amount of FT's relative to their opponents, ie doubling up even silver's worriers
You can’t claim that getting more free throws means it’s rigged and then also say the warriors didn’t get screwed in game 7 against houston. Can’t have it both ways if you’re going to ignore context. Nobody on the warriors shoots free throws, that’s not how they work. In that rockets series a big % of their free throws were durant, he’s gone now. If you watched the warriors lakers and thought the refs helped la more then gs, that’s cool. Definitely not what i saw
that game 7 was 22-14 fakers got fuking 42-14 in this series finale! and going on 3 pages now with zero evidence offered to support your claim, you want us to believe the team that got 3x as many FT's -- an obscene 28FT advantage -- was shafted by the zebras smh
MFer can you read? it's one thing to be stuck on this dumbass position about fakers getting screwed, but to keep saying i'm pro-worriers even after i already posted several times i despise them? GTFO tard
I don’t believe it’s possible for someone to watch that series and think the warriors got screwed, by someone who isn’t a warriors fan. So either this is some bizarre attempt to troll or you’re a fan. Either way, all good bud
right, here's the worriers fan archiving these links for posterity smh https://uproxx.com/dimemag/demarcus-cousins-warriors-rockets-game-7-referees-twitter-reaction/4/ https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1001336502687682567?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://s9e.github.io/iframe/twitter.min.html#1001336502687682567 https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-27/nba-rigged https://thesportspost.com/nba-steals-finals-houston-rockets/
How easy it is for lebronies to spin it that way. So and so never did anything before lebron. It couldn't possibly be because they all teamed up. But go ahead and only count the bad years and injuries or poor organizational moves of the individuals before lebron and ignore wade was an alpha champion before lebron with a useless 35 year old shaq. What did lebron do with a 37 year old Shaq? What did lebron do without teaming up? Beat the 41 win wizards, 41 nets and the Pistons with old broken cwebb replacing Ben Wallace and bum flip Saunders replacing Larry brown. "He beat the Pistons" without the context. That's his claim to success on his own without stacking the deck. En route to a sweep because the real championship was in the WCF as usual. What did he do with Ben Wallace? Man he's played with every single star you can think of. 20 years and still trying to get close to the success of kobe and Duncan and magic. How many stars did he let win during the kings "reign" again? Ive lost count. His greatness is in total accumulated stats. Someone said i was punishing him for that. I did no such thing. Hes an all time great and playing this long is freakish. Karl Malone and John Stockton were beast until late. So was Kareem. Obviously the pace and space era creates inflated stats to make it look better for Bron but you'd be dumb to think he's better than his prime in Miami bc his inflated stats paint that picture. Truth is longevity is celebrated but it doesn't create a GOAT. Little Johnny Stocktons assists and steals records will last longer than Kareem and lebron held the scoring record combined. Karl Malone is on top of that scoring list too. No one called him the goat PF. Maybe if Karl Malone teamed up with prime Jordan, he'd be considered the goat PF. Thats all that really separated his career from lebrons tbh.
One thing that's missed in these discussions is the calls that do not get called. In the last Lakers Warriors game, LeBron got away with two offensive fouls within the first minute or so. That set the tone. That let the Warriors know that they're playing 5 on 8. That's debilitating. Once that type of tone is set, one team's shots are high-pressure from the start and the other's are low-pressure.
Lebron is averaging 5 Fts a game despite probably attacking the paint more than anyone. They aren't giving him the Jordan treatment.
Who said anything like that? I said Wade couldn't get past round 1 in the 4 seasons pre LeBron. It's laughable to act like he was on LeBron's level when they hooked up.
Who said he was on LeBrons level? Wade is a top sg of all time, and he still was The Flash and top 10 player of all time joined forces with him and another top PF in the league at the time plus tons of role players. That's stacking the deck and some had to take backseats and stats losses. Wade was better than Lebron in the finals and they could have won if lebron gave him some kind of support. Wade averaged 30,5 and 7 against the C's. The year the Heat were the worst, they had tons of injuries including Wade missing half the season. The next few years, he had older support-good defensive support but his next best scorer in one of those seasons was Michael Beasley's 13ppg while Wade was a 30/5/7.5/2 and a 30.4 PER. At his peak he was individually the 3rd best SG of all time and one of the most electric 2 way superstars of all time. LeBron had to team up with that and you and other LeBron fans are trying to diminish that and make it seem like Wade was just another one of the far removed from his prime stars that LeBron has played with and Bosh was just another bum LeBron carried too.
You did. Wade was great when they first linked up, but he wasn't better than LeBron at that point. He wasn't the better player for the Heat in any year they played together. Wade didn't even make 1st Team All-NBA their first season together. He did play better in the Finals, where LeBron clearly went ghost. And LeBron didn't have to team up with "Wade" to win. LeBron had to have a 2nd star on his team to win, like 99% of the other players that have led their teams to titles. His success with other elite players like Kyrie and AD clearly highlights this. Why does LeBron need to win with bums when everyone not named Hakeem or Dirk didn't?
If the NBA does another Lakers vs Kings (Nuggets) 2002 they might as well just smack themselves in the face.
The problem with AD is that he's missed alot of games and the start of his career in NO didn't have much playoff success or too many appearance. Though, to be fair to AD, NO is complete mess, they are on their 3rd superstar in about the last 17 years, and they have failed to get extended traction from any of their eras. If you combined all of the attributes of all the best power forwards of all time, he's easily on that list with players, like Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Bob Pettit, Giannis, Elvin Hayes, Kevin Garnett, and Kevin McHale. Underrated guys, like C-Webb, Gasol, and Sheed. I'm mainly pointing to players who were great offensive players, and equally as good or better on defense. AD falls into that category, easily. He's a master offensive player, and on a team, like the current-day Lakers, where isn't always needed to score. He can lock down players, defensively, one-on-one; team-defense (switching); and presents a good shot block ability to mixed with guarding shooters in the mid range and at the 3 point line. Overall standings, you have other guys, like Barkley, Dirk, and Rodman. Dirk and Barkley, probably weren't the best defenders in the world, while Rodman's weaknesses was probably his lack of offensive ability. AD is like a few levels up from players, like Bill Walton, Aryvdas Sabonis, Shawn Kemp, or our own Yao. AD has been able to stay healthy enough and is still young enough to really build up his legacy. He's had injuries, but not too serious of injuries. LeBron argument is irrelevant, because basically anyone who wins 3 or more wings is benefitting from having a great team around them. At the end of the day, the *best* team should win. There's literally no one in NBA history, who won multiple titles without HOF or all-stars around them.
