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ESPN pushing racism & division

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JW86, Mar 7, 2023.

  1. Lovemachine2000

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    I'm confused. So is Disney owned by the Chinese or by Christian fundamentalists?
     
  2. astrosrule

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    Playoff success isn’t an individual thing though. Embiid has had no playoff success, giannis’s only accomplishment was the nets getting injured. If giannis got swept that season people would say the same thing
     
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    after Giannis and his team's performance in the Bubble, there was no way in hell they were gonna give him another MVP the following year...that's all they harped on

    So if Jokic and his team flames out again, but he's an advanced stats darling and his team is 1st in the West next year, they toss him a 4th straight?

    they just pick and choose which players to prop up as well as who gets criticism, and who doesn't
     
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    Perk is gonna be really mad when white Luka wins MVP next year lol.
     
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  5. sinobball

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    Who is "us" because Dirk, Jokic and Nash are all foreigners. They just look more Americans than the Chinese
     
  6. Nook

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    A lot goes into playoff success, but if you are going to win 3 straight MVP's, if you are that great, then there is going to be an expectation that you win a title during that time.

    I agree that a lot of luck goes into it, Harden wins a title if CP3 isn't hurt..... Harden wins a second one if Kyrie and Harden don't get hurt against the Bucks.
     
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    Americans in general

    This isn't about what countries the particular players are from.

    This is another part of China's plab to become the #1 super power in the world. Part of this plan is to keep Americans divided on the basis of race. ESPN/ABC/Tik Tok etc.. are a few of the platforms the Chinese are using to accomplish this goal.
     
  8. Haymitch

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    The NBA doesn't have official MVP criteria because they like the debate, but some voters (and randos like me) view it as a regular season award.

    I don't view it as some lifetime achievement award where previous seasons or playoffs are a factor. Same for DPOY, COTY, and other annual awards. Jokic has been awesome in the playoffs, but even if he had put up Ben Simmons-esque performances, that wouldn't impact his case for being a regular season MVP in my eyes.

    That said, I suspect if someone were to do a real deep dive on MVP Award history, they would find that the largest contributing factor overall is narrative, which is of course driven in part by prior seasons or playoffs. But it's also finicky and can be stupid, as it was in the Russ Triple-Double year. So for that reason I'll stick to treating it as a regular season award that is based off its respective season only.
     
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    Perkins says stupid things ALOT. He does not represent all African Americans and should be judged on his own merit. I just don't think he's that insightful or smart for that matter. God bless him for making it out of Beaumont as a high school to NBA story but that's about it for me. He's just bad at his job and statements like this just make it obvious.
     
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    Yes it is. If the players are all from China would you still make the same statement
     
  11. Easy

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    All voted awards without stated criteria are narrative driven. That's why I put very little weight in those awards. I wasn't even mad when Westbrook stole Harden's MVP. I just don't care enough to invest my emotional energy in those things. Playoffs and championship successes are a whole lot more meaningful achievements.
     
  12. raining threes

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    BS post

    What if the sun rose in the west
     
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    Not gonna weigh in on the race aspect. But Jokic and Dirk were top 10 in their MVP seasons. Jokic in one of them and 13th in the other.
     
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    How can you be racist against a group of ppl that control government and create laws?
     
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    Who else besides jokic would get a free pass to win 3 mvps while having 0 rings? Going by the numbers he deserves it this year but weve known in the past that really doesnt mean **** for other players

    The voters like him more and there arent many other reasons that you can point to since he has no personality whatsoever. What makes him so likeable? You cant be this gullible
     
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    i mean him being by far the most impactful player this season would be the most logical reason for him to win the mvp. If you don't think the MVP should go to the player who brought the most value this season, who should it go to?
     
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    giannis and embiid are equally as deserving and wouldnt lead to giving an almost unprecedented 3peat mvp to someone who has managed to suck a fat dick every time the playoffs come around
     
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    They’re not even remotely close to deserving compared to him first of all. Secondly, embiid has always sucked in the playoffs, and giannis mostly has as well. If they’re just gonna troll with the mvp and make a mockery of it iverson style, i’d rather see someone like russ get it this year.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    No reason.

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