If Green really works on refining his game he can become a good scorer in the NBA. From what I've seen at best he can become a Lou Williams type spark off the bench that doesn't really contribute to anything else on the court. He still has a long way to go before he gets to that level though.
Man, you guys must have really sucked in the 80's and 90's when we missed our pick and could've had Michael Jordan, who clearly should've been the #1 pick, can't believe we ****ing wasted it!
So I'm assuming you would say that about Kobe Bryant when he was 19 in his second season with low efficiency and low scoring output? Not Lou Williams obviously but whatever the 90s version of him was. "Kobe at best will become a 6th man spark plug".
I mean just because Kobe had a crappy season at 19, doesn't mean every player that has a crappy season at 19 have a good chance of becoming Kobe. That is a pretty flawed logic don't you think. Green has gotten off to a rather rough start other than the 2 games where he got hot. It's hard to really predict anything. He could also become a player worse than Lou Williams.
i'm getting a little concerned not going to lie. mainly that I thought he would be able to attack the rim at a much much better rate. interesting to see what he opts to work on the rest of his rookie year. trying improve at every facet of your game simultaneously is a fools errand.
yes, exactly. There’s a lot of miscommunication here on this board. Those who are disappointed that JG did not come out of the gate blazing are not necessarily sаying that he won’t get better. OTOH, Saying Kobe was bad his first year doesn’t mean he’ll become the next Kobe. Majority of players are bad their first year, not all of them become Kobe, obviously. With some of these top dogs you know right away: LeBron, Luca… Others like Kobe took a few years. T-Mac looked worse than Jalen Green in his first year. It’s very early on and all scenarios are pretty much on the table: from complete bust to a superstar. What we are discussing is ballpark probabilities of what his career may end up…
At this point, it’s absolutely a combination of Green being underutilized by the coaching staff, and also Green just straight bricking and not being aggressive enough. Silas can’t shoot the ball for Jalen. But there are ways we can get him easy points to get his confidence and rhythm going. Check this out: We do nothing like this to make the game easier for our #2 overall pick. Meanwhile, Golden State is out here running plays to maximize the strengths of a role player.
Honestly, I'm a little surprised by underperforming Green but somehow, I want to believe it has something to do with the coaching style. Green should be much better than what we are seeing.
The curse of the #2 pick is a cop out. This was a very deep draft with Mobley, Barnes, Giddey there for the taking, three all star caliber franchise players. We CHOSE to take Green. Blame Rafael for ignoring his analytics department which was rumored to favor Mobley. Blame Tilman for being money hungry for drafting an IG model. Don’t blame some superstitious “curse”, Green is not hurt he just sucks.
So why are you mistepresting what I'm saying? When someone says the best they can be is Lou Williams and I say that Kobe had a rough season at 19, doesn't mean I think Green is the next Kobe. It means writing off someone's career as "the best they can be is Lou Williams" 9 games into someone's rookie season at 19 years of age is incredibly stupid and quite frankly probably intentionally meant to "trigger".
Can we blame him once these guys are of legal drinking age and we actually see what players they become? Or is that that crazy talk?
His career is not over but the experiment -- what part of "over" do people not understand? It's not kind of over or mostly over.
Can't tell if that's sarcasm making fun of people who wrote off careers of NBA rookies 9 games into their first season at 19 years of age or you are actually serious here. Yes it's 9 games into someone's rookie season at 19. It's not moving goal posts to say that even an entire bad rookie year for a 19 year old doesn't write off their careers to some predetermined ranking that satisfies your preconceived bias about the guy before he was drafted.
People are seriously unironically making fun off people who are saying to wait and see a player develop past 9 games into their roomie season at age 19. Like I don't know if I'm being gaslight or not at this point.
sorry I didn't read the message you replied to. I also feel like it's not intentionally trying to trigger especially Green seems to need improvement in almost every aspect of his game except for his raw athleticism.
I didn't give "blame" at this stage but I will say this. You know who drafted Evan Turner at #2? Rod Thorn. You know where Rod Thorn is now after a very very long career??... Retired because of drafting Evan Turner at #2, and the horrible Bynum trade. So yeah there are consequences for drafting poorly at #2, and there will be consequences for Stone if he misses on Green. Your post is sort of strange that you thought because I was stating that there has been an odd string of misses at #2 that I somehow would give Stone a pass. Stone has a 3 year plan. Hit on Green, Hit on the 2022 lottery pick, Score multiple free agents in 2023 free agency, and contend for a title during the 2023/24 season. Stone will lose his job rightfully so if it's obvious that the Summer of 2023 free agency play is no longer a reality because Stone missed badly with the draft this past Summer and this next Summer. That's the reality that I would assume Tillman is working under. If Stone wants a long career in the NBA as a GM, he better hope Green shows more than he has or he just scores the next Lebron next Summer.
