Let's hope the scouting will do a good job is finding the best fit for our future and not settle on BPA.
I've got Barnes as 3B right behind Green. Barnes could end up best player in this draft. He has everything but the long ball and his shot is fixable.
I read KOC Mock draft and his evaluation of Green is completely opposite lol. Seen he's actually a good off the ball defender and is a decent playmaker. We got KPJ as well don't forget that
I don't see it with Green. I saw a player that has the ability to get around his man and score and a streaky but likely to improve perimeter shot. I didn't see a player with great court vision but a player that was most similar to shooting guards from in the past. Defensively I think he will be fine if he works hard at it, but I don't see anything special.
I don't think Cade's playmaking was mediocre.... I think it's well above average. Dude has two videos full of 'potential assists': I'm sure other players can put together videos similar, but 1) there's a lot of missed assists in there because his teammates just weren't that good 2) if you look at the type of passes he's making you can see that he is already a very good passer. Give this guy some real running mates and I'm sure he'd be able to rack up assists with the best of them.
Mocks are always filled with dated information. Some of it obvious (Kuminga possibly dropping and Barnes moving up).
Kuminga is still top 7 player. But Barnes is rising for a reason, he is just more skilled and more of an athletic freak.
Yeah yeah yeah.....so was John Henson and Thon Maker If Scottie Barnes could shoot 3's or anything like Sam Perkins then in would agree. I will take the CF member that lives in Tallahassee that is a Seminole fan that said Scottie Barnes lacks a lot to be desired; which is what I saw vs Michigan during an important tournament game. The guy averaged 1.5 stls and 0.5 blocks per game....... John Henson was 0.6 stls and 2.9 blocks per game (college) Come on, you are turning Scottie into the Dion Sanders of basketball on so-so college stats.
D-rock loves his defensive guys. I’d honestly take Kuminga over Suggs. Kuminga is one of the youngest players in the draft. I could easily see him becoming one of the best wings in the NBA. Btw which hype train are you on for the #2, Mobley or Green? Or maybe Suggs?
I agree, Kuminga is going to be a beast in this NBA-lite era. Magic will have a very good player if they draft him. Two way combo forward. My daughter was all caught up in that Twighlight movies series of either "Team Edward" or "Team Jacob" i feel like Rockets fans are going through that with "Team Mobley" or "Team Green" I'm going with "Team Green" Posted yesterday the weights by position evolution over the last 69 years in the NBA where it states the average height in the NBA is trending 6"6". Green is right there (don't believe this 6'4" or 6'3" stuff......Kuminga is 6'8" and Green next to him is 6'5"-ish to 6'6"). Lists Shooting Guards weighing in at approximately 190 pounds. Green is probably 182 pounds.....I'm guessing he can get to 187 by his next birthday (Feb). So in this Uber lite era where I've seen the NBA list Tim Hardaway (6'5") and Ben McLemore (6'3") and Danny Green (6'6") as Small Forwards, Jalen Green is going to be Jordan/Kobe-lite (in this NBA-lite era). All a matter of the Rockets getting 3-pt shooters (instead of shooting 33.9% and being tied for 28th/29th in league). Needed to open things up for Jalen/Porter Jr/Wall/Eric Gordon/Wood as facilitators in the Silas system. Making it much more efficient and easier for everyone. Mobley: I have Mobley averaging about 16 points a game as teams get physical with him and C/PF's push him out of his comfort shot areas. Like his hook shot across the lane that he likes around 6 to 7 feet away from the rim gets pushed out to 9 feet way. His schedule was mostly PAC-12 where they are known for finesse.....I want to see if he gets knocked down will he "man up" or "shrink". We had Chase Budinger come from the PAC-12 (PAC-10 back then I believe) and Matt Barnes said all you have to do his get a little physical with him and Chase would disappear for the rest of the game. Mobley is too risky for my blood. I don't want to find out that Embiid/KAT/Vuc/Valanciunas/Julius Randall/ others make Mobley shrink after investing a #2 pick on the guy. Plus I hope to get much the same from Kai Jones/Garuba/Roko Prkacin later at #23. Suggs: guards are easier to come by nowadays. There are 20 PG's / SG's that many consider good in the first round in this draft......many more in the second round. I don't feel I have to have Suggs now. I can get a Scottie Lewis or Chris Duarte (SG that can play the role of Beverley) or McBride later in the draft or wait til next year. PG's are becoming a dime a dozen. I don't stress I must have a facilitator at point guard as long as I have Wall/Porter/EGo/Jalen short term and Porter/Jalen Green long term. Rockets need to buy a 2nd rounder or two (if permitted). Just my take. Hope to see your opinion as well. Everyone's opinion is welcome. We all want the best for the Rockets and everyone's opinion can help form that.
Quality post, i agree with pretty much everything you've said. I spent most of the time i invested into the 2021 draft looking at Green. KPJ got me interested in the G-league and both Kuminga and Green looked very impressive to me considering that they are straight out of highschool. I've seen some games from him in the g-league and i liked his game. I very much agree with your take that he has Jordan'esque qualities and could very well be someone to win 5+ scoring titles in the NBA. But what really sold me on Green>Mobley is that Green shows the desire to be great. Everyone around him seems to be impressed by his mentality and the way he thinks about himself. He himself tweeted that the discussion around the top draft pick would've been different had he gone to College instead of the G-league which i personally 100% agree with. He deleted the tweet later on. One last, minor point that i really like about him, is that he seems to embrace coming to houston. He's been reposting storys of Rockets fanpages and all that. Maybe he doesn't want to go to cleveland but i choose to believe that he likes H-Town. I really like Mobley and won't be upset if we pick him because he really is a very talented young big. But i think evaluating big men from college is hard because the competition at guard spots is much better. There's almost no one in the NCAA that can really challenge Mobley on his weaknesses and the only time I'm aware of a team that did that (Gonzaga, Timme) he got dumpstered and lost by 30. I do think that he has that unicorn potential but I'm not sure if that warrants a #2 pick over a potential scoring champ in Jalen Green.
Very much agree. Jalen Green was great in his final G-league in which I was actually tuning in to watch Alize Johnson. Green did everything vs Nic Stauskas and a good defending Gary Payton II (G-league DPOY) and scored 30 points. Half court shot. 41 mins...11/20 (55% FG%)...7 FTA's....5 rebs...7 Ast...3 stls....30 pts I feel his defensive woes can be fixed as Gary Payton II would jab step and Green would bite too often and take himself out of position. Nik shot about two long buckets in his face (but I've seen Nik Stauskas do that to many pros). Defense is mostly moving the feet, so Green has the combination of foot speed and leaping ability to improve defensively. Just a matter of slowing down, learning the plays of the opposition, forcing a player to your help (knowing where your help is). Watching the opponents waist line and not falling for all those head fakes, jab steps, shoulder shrugs. MJ/Kobe needed added wingspan because they were much slower than Jalen Green and players were taller on the average back then; heavier as well so they (MJ/Kobe) needed to bulk up more during that era. I'm hopng the Rockets invest in some early second round picks to maybe get Scottie Lewis or if Chris Duarte falls back to secure the defense off the bench to counter the Porter Jr/Jalen Green "poor defense" issue. Not to mention Wall put up good defensive marks and Eric Gordon as much as I blast his defense sported good defensive marks as well. Plus Khyri Thomas posted excellent offensive/defensive numbers. I'm comfortable in my skin with our point guard/shooting guard roster with: Porter/Jalen Green/Wall/Eric Gordon/Khyri Thomas and possibly Tre Mann/Duarte/Scottie Lewis being drafted as defensive stoppers in close games. I expect one of Wall or Eric Gordon gone by the trading deadline either by trade or buyout. If you look at the USC schedule and see the conference by opponent, it's all PAC12. They played one Big East game vs Connecticut in which they lost by two or three points so that's good. But yes I wanted to see Mobley vs Timme. Mobley longer, quicker, greater leaper vs Timme, slower, grounded, but Scola-like crafty around the rim. I only saw them matched up once and it was in front of the rim and Timme did a fake that got Mobley on his toes, then Timme went left of Mobley for a layup. Mobley had to foul him across the arms to prevent the bucket. I'm not sold Mobley can handle bigger better players than Timme that are found in the NBA. I think he will get average numbers. It bothers me that 5'11" Tyger Campbell starts at PG for UCLA and the coaching couldn't arrange Mobley on the perimeter with the nearest guy rotating to Mobley is Tyger Campbell. Mobley is 7 feet tall with arms reaching to the ceiling and there is no way 5'11" Campbell is going to block his 3-pt attempt. Mobley should have 7 or 8 three point attempts in both those meetings. Too many things like that bother me about Mobley. I'm sure he will be fine, just if I'm at the poker table with Mobley as the pot and the #2 pick at stake.....I'm folding. I'm letting others gamble on him. Thank for your comments and you words are very wise. *Side note: near the end of the season USC played mostly zone defense. That's what you got from USC in tournament games. Deceptive when judging Mobley moving to next next level when you see him against the best in college While in zone defense.
If Green is #2 and Thor is the big man Stone wants, you have #23 and #24 you might trade up to get him. I don't see a lot of playing time for those picks if we actually make both of them. It might even be enough for Kai or Krispert. Is there no draft value trade chart for the NBA like the Jimmy Johnson chart for the NFL?
