i really like all 3 prospects, but your wild guess that mobley will bail for the lakers is so far out in left field lol... mobley's aau coach said that he was the only aau player he's coached over the past 20 yrs or so where that player only played for one aau team his whole middle school to high school career. nearly all aau players switch teams almost every other week. mobley stayed on the same team out of loyalty to the coach, even if he had better options to go join other teams. on top of that, he just doesn't seem to care about the limelight at all and seems to have more of a reserved personality. hell, he likes to play chess and table tennis during his free time... in this day and age.. some ppl here mention that mobley doesn't seem to have a clear passion for basketball, that his 4.0gpa indicates that he may have other interests. since when was having a 4.0gpa a bad thing?!? all it tells me is the guy has his priorities straight and he wants to excel in everything he does. jaylen brown (oddly enough, also an avid chess player) had the same knock on him coming out of cal -- that he had too many academic interests and that would detract his nba career. didn't seem like his knack for learning hurt him much. meanwhile, u have jalen green, who is also from the LA area, and a big kobe fan... who does seem to have a good head on his shoulders and a strong relationship with his mom... but he's already busy hitting up IG models like breah hicks. not saying he's gonna bolt for the lakers or anything... but if i had to guess between mobley and green who has the higher chance to bolt? i'd easily pick green
Shot selection??? He had a TS% of 61% Also that’s bad logic because we’ve seen top college players flame out in the league as well. You can apply that to any player in the draft.
Jalen Green is 2 years younger than KPJ. He was coming out of highschool while KP already had a year of NBA experience. He also was much more efficient than KP. G league defenses are much more advanced than College. Colleges still run 2-3 zone heavily and majority of the players wouldn’t even make a g league roster let alone NBA. Naming Players from a decade ago isn’t a strong case because the league overall has changed. The g league itself is more developed now than it was 10 years ago. Mobley is not averaging 20 straight out of highschool. He’d get bullied in the paint. He’s 215 with no offensive game outside of lobs, and straight line drives against slow footed college players.
My point was that people are talking about him as if he's going to come into the league averaging 25 points a game when he couldn't even do that in the G league and got run off the court by KPJ. Those who are hyping up Green can't go from talking about how NBA ready he is to making excuses for why he got so thoroughly outplayed by people who were still not 100% NBA ready at the time. He's still a fantastic prospect, but expectations should be more realistic. He's not going to be the best player on the Rockets next year if he's picked, much like all of the other top prospects in this class he's got a lot to work on before he's anywhere close to what people think they can become. Also, Mobley could definitely average 20/10 if he was in the G league last year, there's no such thing as defense in that league and they play at a fast pace. Hell Ray Spalding and Anthony Lamb nearly did last season Hartenstein averaged 25/15 the season before that.
I guess it's just sad that whichever player gets drafted has a high probability of leaving eventually in todays NBA.
KPJ had 28 vs JG who had 22 that game. KPJ also dropped 50 on Jrue Holiday so using him to downplay Green is very poor logic. KP was in the g league to get in playing shape after the covid delay not because of talent. Hartenstein has NBA experience Mobley does not. Hartenstein is also 250 while Mobley is 215. There’s no correlation between the two players. Also I don’t expect JG to even start right away. He’ll average 10-15 off the bench. Probably closer to 15 since Wall and Gordon will miss a lot of time. He doesn’t need to drop 20 as a rookie to end up a star.
KPJ had 28/10/9 in a must win game for Green's team. I'm just pointing out how much further along guys like KPJ are to Green. Also pointing out that outright scrubs can dominate the G league because no defense is played at all.
KPJ is 2 years older than Green. He should be further along. Those same scrubs dominated in college. **** Jeremy Lin had a dominant stretch in the league. the same argument applies to every lottery pick. That’s like me sayin Jimmer Freddette dominated in college so Jalen Suggs will fail in the NBA. It makes no sense. Also Jalen Green had 30 points on 55% in the g league playoffs, also a must win game.
Which is great, but if you're not projecting him to be good enough to start his first year, why would you want to draft him 2nd overall?
Mobley didnt even average 20/10 in weaker competition in the Pac 12 that has how many future G League players?
On a team with a 4th overall pick and a 13th overall pick playing ahead of him at the guard spots.... and he was playing 22 minutes a game his rookie season.
Nahh you said why draft him if you don’t expect him to start. Harden wouldn’t have started if he went number 2 for the Grizzlies either. Starting as a rookie is completely irrelevant to a players talent or potential. Wall and Gordon are making 60 mill combined per year for us and are being showcased for trades. So they would start while KPJ and Green come off the bench.
A number 2 overall pick should start on a team with nothing of quality outside KPJ at the guard spot. Wall will be gone and anyone who can't beat out Gordon has no business being drafted in the top 10. If you don't think Green is good enough to start at SG on a team with nothing but washed up trash at the spot, you shouldn't want him #2
Did you read anything I just said. It’s not about Green or KPJ being “good” enough. Wall and Gordon won’t be benched because they make 60mil combined per year. Benching them will tank their trade value leaving us stuck with their bad contracts.
If he's a legit #2 quality player, who cares about the trade value of washed up scrubs like Wall and Gordon? If Green is legit, you flip those guys for whatever you can get or buy out their contracts. You'd never let them get in the way of a legit star in the making.
On a side note, do you think we can take our other 2 picks with Eric Gordon and get Michael Porter Jr?
Nobody is trading for them if they come of the bench. Especially Wall. Also Tilman is not buying out that large of contract. This isn’t 2k you can’t just throw away bad contracts at will. Harden spent 3 years behind bum ass Sefolosha and ended up a first ballot HOF. You can come off the bench and still play starter minutes and close games.
