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"Sometimes you have to go to plan B, the Rockets have Plan A, Plan A, Plan A"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    I believe lots of people don't understand this

    They don't see coaching as the issue only personnel
     
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    Which Plan has Defense because since MDA has been here we either ignore it completely or we talk it without walking it. Regardless, I'd like a Plan that includes Defense because shots will or won't fall but Defense should be a pillar to rely on always.
     
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    Nothing a good players-only meeting can't fix. Just need our leader to step up.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    I’m jealous of mid range jumpers and passing
     
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    That's the result of us going all-in to win now for a few years, followed by Tilman going all-in to save $$$ now. We have a very shallow team and no assets to improve. And now we're screwed. Tilman is an idiot; MDA and Morey are lame ducks; and Harden might just be bored with playing here.
     
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    absolutely right. I said it in 17-18 (0-27), said it in 18-19 (g6) and its clear today. This is and always will be MDA’s biggest flaw - the failure to adjust
     
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    Not necessarily. That plan is later down the alphabet list. Creating and setting plays, emphasizing energy and rebounding, cutting turnovers, and utilizing the shot clock with player movement and early attack are all things that can be done with the current roster. Instead, we just say "here Harden/Westbrook, go... only create scores for 3s and layups/dunks" and that's our Plan A.
     
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    nope. you need the actual personnel for those things. and to get those personnel you actually have to spend. you want limited players that are cheap. that's what you're getting
     
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    Struggling to score 20pts 1 quarter per game says differently.
     
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    Playing smarter with energy does not cost more, you are incorrect.
     
  11. YOLO

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    not really. most of the guys that are out of the league or are bottom barrel have questionable bball iq's or is low to begin with. The talent and iq just don't match. And that is an absolutely horrendous attribute to have at this level. so no it isn't necessarily incorrect. there's a reason why teams love high iq guys on their team, despite less actual basketball talent
     
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    If you want to find out if the bench can (or god forbid, develop their capacity to) play in high pressure playoff situations when the game slows down, you gotta put them in THROUGHOUT the regular season, and not just against the dregs of the league. So many times we see an unknown go off in a playoff game, but that guy needs the confidence to do so. Riding the bench all year does nothing for your confidence. Last night might have been the most aggressive example of MDA just ignoring his bench. Capela with 4 fouls and Adams out with a sprained ankle, and PJ still plays 41 minutes with Hart keeping that seat warm. Gross.
     
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    You're describing that it "can" cost more money, but nothing you said supports that a Plan B absolutely requires more money. It is incorrect that a Plan B absolutely requires more money, as 1) you're stating the Rockets can do NOTHING other than what they're doing now and 2) that if they did ANYTHING different it is only 1 plan away and will always cost more money.

    Neither of those things are absolutes by any means, and to believe so is unnecessarily limiting.
     
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    of course plan B requires more money. you're not getting any different overall results with plan A and LTS
     
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    Plan B is important. Without it, could lead to unexpected outcomes.

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    He’s right. Coaching matters.
     
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    Sorry, anectdoctal arguments are an invitation to stupid decision making.

    We need better players. It's as simple as that.
     
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    Plan B?

    Wait...is Harden pregnant YET AGAIN?
     
  19. J.R.

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    Rockets
    Plan A: Harden
    Plan B: Spam threes
    Plan C: If one or both are off, well just keep on shooting, surely they're bound to go in
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    i don't know what goes away in the playoffs or not, but against teams that don't have 4 future hall of famers in their prime, the rockets are 12-3 in the playoffs the last 2 years. and against teams with 4 future hall of famers in their prime, the rockets are the only team in 10 series where that team was healthy that played even remotely competitive series.

    this team seems broken right now, but it's not because we have a system that the rest of the league has figured out (aside from get lots of hall of famers) or because other teams have amazing systems that produce way better playoff results. harden either seems injured or his shot is in a funk and we can get a lead but can't hold a lead. just 4 games ago we were on top of the world and had destroyed denver. given the last 2 years, i'm willing to wait a bit to see if it's 4 games or really a trend and we need to start moving people. why we can get a lead but not hold a lead is beyond me (if other teams figure us out so easily in the 4th, i don't know why they don't do whatever they are doing, but earlier in the game, because i'm sure they don't want to be down 16 entering the 4th).
     

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