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Fire Mike D'Antoni

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BaiHua, May 10, 2019.

  1. Plowman

    Plowman Contributing Member
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    In a perfect world...yes. Absolutely.
     
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    Exactly. When you consider we have never had a really stacked team we have done well.

    Yes we need to improve defense but it’s only been 4 games. Why do you guys think it can’t improve at all?

    With a scoring machine like harden, and the pace of Westbrook, we have potential to be historically great on offense. We probably don’t have personnel to be a great defensive team but we may not have to be with powerful of an offense.

    Pace makes all the difference. We have great offense previous years but the pace was so slow and all we did was ISO. That made us easier to guard in the playoffs.

    This offense this year can be a completely different beast. I can’t believe so many of you are down on this team already. You would think we are 0-4 losing by 20+ a game
     
  3. saleem

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    Yes, that’s a good point. JVG isn’t flexible. Turner did a good job with Rick. Let’s hope for the best. Thanks.
     
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  4. roslolian

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    The only reason the Rox have done well is due to the transcendental talent of James Harden. What has MDA done to make Harden's life easier? From his own admission MDA just adds to Harden's work cuz he has his assistants give Harden the data during timeouts and ask him to make the damn plays.

    If the Rox had a competent Xs and Os coach like Budenholzer, Carlisle or Nick Nurse we would have a ring by now.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Harden needs someone who isnt flexible, look at Russ is he flexible? But Harden loves the man he appreciates honest and straightforward men like WB and JVG but disdains manipulative people like Cp3.
     
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  6. icewill36

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    bro you are an idiot. so we would beat teams more talented than us just because of a different coach? coaching matters, but talent matters more. ill take my chances having the most talent over having the best coach.

    the main reason we didn't win a couple of years ago is because of INJURY. if you think better coaching would have gotten us a win in game 7, you need to keep in mind that only would have gotten us to the finals, and cp3 would still be out the rest of the season. if you think lebron would just hand us a ring you better think again. we would not have had anyone to guard him or anyone he had to guard on the other end. good luck beating him in that situation.

    we will have to just agree to disagree. you guys love to blame the coach but the roster has flaws. i dont know what coach you think could have done better than 65 wins, WCF game 7 loss to the most stacked team in history, and then have significant roster turnover and still come within a game of the 2 seed the following year. our problems in the playoffs last year were largely because of james refusal to up the tempo. thats snails pace was our undoing once KD got hurt because the warriors dramatically increased theirs once he was out. we couldnt keep up with harden just wanting to ISO all game. Im sure Mike D wanted things faster also so I dont see the point in putting the blame all on him.
     
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  7. roslolian

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    Bro you are the idiot here does getting a better coach mean you lose the talent on the team? The GM is the one who gets the talent so what does that have to do with changing the coach? You's take the most talent over the best coach? Ok but the Rox never had the most talent nor the best coach so what does that have to do with anything?

    Getting the 1st seed and X wins is worthless, nobody cares about regular season when you come short in the playoffs. Ok so the problem is James' refusal to up the tempo. Whose job is it do you think to convince him, huh? Maybe if Dumbtoni actually made coaching adjustments Harden would listen to him.

    Dumbtoni's teams always have great regular season success yet choke in the playoffs. It happened during his Phx run, it has been happening here in Houston. What is the common denominator between the two teams? Why is it Raptors were able to beat this "stacked team" but the Rox couldnt even get a G7? When Rox lost to Spurs is that a talent deficit? Or did Dumbtoni get outcoached by Popovich? What is Dumbtoni's record vs Bucks again? Isnt it a string of 20 pt blowouts? Is that the talent difference again? Or is Bud just coaching circles around Dumbtoni every single match?

    Yeah ok we can agree to disagree but I'm right and you're wrong. Dumbtoni has got to go.
     
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    How have the dantoni teams choked? Losing to a better team is not choking. The suns never had the pieces to beat the spurs.

    Why were the raptors able to beat the warriors and we couldn’t? Is this a serious question ? They have more size and weapons than we do, that’s how. They have big athletic front line, Kawhi and Danny green on the wings. You must be trolling

    The bucks? The bucks have giannis playing with a stretch 5. The lane is wide open. You think that’s a strategy mike D couldn’t come up with? He is the grandfather of this whole style. When the warriors won their first title assistant coach Alvin Gentry said this is vindication for MIKE DANTONi
     
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    Right PHX Suns had 4 all stars and a couple of decent bench pieces but werent enough to beat Timmy D, Parker and 6th man Ginobili. Its just not enough, Nash, Matrix, Stat and Joe Johnson is not enough Dumbtoni also need Kobe, KG and Shaq before he can say he has enough. Suns lead the West almost every year they were together but clearly they are not favored vs Spurs lmao ok w/e.

    When the Warriors won their coach is Steve Kerr who was mentored by Popovich. I don't give a **** what his assistants say they arent the coach they don't call the shots. If Kerr said his ring is vindication to Dumbtoni then ok you got a point but he didnt, Kerr doesnt gives a rats ass about Dumbtoni he knows he can coach circles around Pringles all day any day of the week.

    It is not a vindication, it is a slap to the face of Dumbtoni cuz Dumbtoni had 4 all stars in PHX didnt even reach the Finals. At least when GSW had 4 all stars they won the chip, which you know is supposed to happen when you have a talent advantage.

    Isn't Alvin Gentry the coach who got sacked for not being able to win? Makes sense he would boost Dumbtoni when his coach was mentored by Popovich. Dumbasses stick together he sucks at coaching too just like his idol Mr. Pringles.
     
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    The defense cant hide this gimmick system anymore

    How about drive to the hoop when you cant hit threes
     
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    drive to the hoop? blasphemous!!........ When we're missing its no point in driving, shoot even more 3's! - MDA
     
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    Lost Bzdelik and the team embarrassed themselves nightly now on defense.

    gonna be a very long year with this dude
     
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    I am one of those who thinks that there is no better option in the market than MDA, but everything has a limit. The team's performance in these 5 games has been a disaster and MDA does not seem to have answers.
    Another important issue, it was time for Harden to prove that he is a leader and not someone negative for the team, his performance today is an evident proof of his permanent immaturity and lack of knowledge of the game. Simply pathetic.
     
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    As much as I want to blame him for tonight's loss, westbrook's inability to spread our offence makes it very hard to have Capella on the floor. Our issue right now is that since game 4 of the last GS series, teams have figured us out and running the same play. Tucker should not be playing the 5 at Crunch time. He is a 4 at most. Tucker is a good defender still but he doesn't have the size to be a shot blocking or altering presence. Clint also doesn't spread the floor. So Morey has to make a decision fast.
     
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    Bzdelik is a good defensive coach, but he left because he knew it’s hard to play defense with a midget team.

    He asked for clay to build a defense and MDA gave him mud......watered down mud.

    In the third quarter we ran Westbrook/Gordon/Rivers/Tucker/House

    I’m ok with moving on from MDA. Harden/Gordon/Tucker and Westbrook know enough of the offense to continue without MDA
     
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    Well well well Dumbtoni team just got slammed by a woeful Nets teams and you still asking me how have the Dumbtoni teams choked?

    His best "tactic" is playing mdiget ball with PJ Tucker at the 5! It loses every time but he still does it wtf he has got to go.
     
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    No matter how good the offense is, Rockets will never win a championship playing the level o defense they’re playing right now. Great offense wins you games, great defense wins you championships.
     
  18. BaiHua

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    Mike D'Antoni will get fired before Christmas. He won't survive this whole season.
     
  19. saleem

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    We are in big trouble without a defensive identity. The loss of Ariza despite his age and the Prince’s injuries hurt us a lot. CP3 was playing solid defense until he pulled his hamstring against GS.

    It’s on Morey and MDA. They didn’t do anything to address the situation.

    I like Westbrook’s pace, but the motto should be convert defense into offense, and pass the ball for good shots.

    Gordon was at his best when Chris passed the ball to him. Westbrook can develop good chemistry with him. A lot of homework is needed. MDA’s approach sucks, I admit.
    It’s nice to hear from you after such a long off season. Have a great weekend Apache.
     
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    Without Jeff B, MDA will be 2nd round exit.

    let’s be honest.
     

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