[Feigen] Andre Iguodala, JaVale McGee up next on Rockets' wish list

I agree. His real value is to finish games.

Clint
Tucker
Iggy or Gordon
Harden
Paul

I actually suspect would could see a

Tucker
Iggy
Gordon
Harden
Paul

finish lineups depending on the matchup.

 

Yep his value is in the last few minutes given how many big games he has contributed in.

 

I’d offer him a starting position if this is really all we see after. Move EGO back to the bench.

 

Why go people insist to come up with odd ass rotations like this? Green is a 2 and we have House..

 

JaMychal Green is a 4

 

No... it wouldn't be a "dream scenario" for a cheap owner... rather, it'd be the opposite, as the Hard Cap is set ABOVE the luxury tax figure. The luxury tax is set at approx 132+ million while the hard cap is at approx 138.9+ million.

Cheap teams and Owners don't just simply avoid going WAY over the tax figure, they avoid even approaching the figure. Very few teams pay the tax and even fewer go over the apron level.

Don't forget, being a tax paying team also means losing out on the tax dividend paid to non tax paying teams every year.

 

iso joe looked decent and played a significant role in the playoffs for the jazz the season before he came to the rockets. at 35 years of age he averaged about 13 points, 4 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game in said playoffs...

...and the next year he was completely done.

at this age even a minor but nagging injury can be the difference between contributing and being out of the league.

 

Memphis is trying to trade Iggy. No way someone is taking his $17.5 mil salary.....and giving up something to get it (unless it is a BAD contract). Just buy the man out (got a 1st out of it).

 

If they buy him out he goes to the Lakers, so teams are trying to make a move to get him. Buying him out also puts his full salary against the cap for Memphis.
By trading him, they might be able to get something in return.
Maybe a young end of bench guy they can give minutes to
Maybe they can reduce total salary bill for the season and put themselves in a place to use cap space later in the season to absorb a contract dump (and get a potential asset again?)
Maybe they can get a 2nd rd pick out of it


Any number of scenarios make sense for Memphis to trade him; and for teams to trade to get him

 

Thanks.

So, good players worth the money:

Payton (was likelye not coming here anyway since he'll start in NY)
Geroge Hill (will start with the Bucks)
DeAndre (maybe he would've take a little less to come here, but if we would've give him the starting spot, not to backup Capela)
Cauley-Stein (more chance to start/play with the Warriors, just like Bell)
Looney (same as Cauley, unless we were going to use the full MLE on him, maybe)

The players i think we could've get maybe get are:

Carroll (i take House at 3.5M over him at 6.5M)
Ed Davis
Holmes

Well, i don't really see how not getting these guys is something to b**** about, Davis is probably the best player but it doesn't really fill a need since he's a smaller and less talented Capela, probably a better rebounder, but that's it, if the Rockets have the chance to use the MLE to a better player they did right in not signing one of these guys, i wouldn't pay the tax either for Richaun Holmes or Ed Davis.

 

we had $9.2M to spend. that's viable.

we made a choice to only spend the TMLE and avoid paying the tax again. we spent most of it on Danuel House. so now we only have $2.2M remaining. that's not viable for good remaining FAs like J Green.

 

Let me clarify: It would be the dream scenario WITHIN REASON. Anyone who thinks Tilman Fertitta's Rockets are avoiding "even approaching the figure," given the contracts they've handed out to Chris Paul and James Harden, is just being ridiculous.

They missed out on the tax this year by a fraction of a percent, all after exhausting other avenues that would have improved the team (and sent them well into the tax).

 

We couldn’t beat the warriors without Durant!!!!

calm the F down, only on Clutchfans

 

McGee can play, he isn't that bad

 

Spending $$ to improve your chances to win when you have a contending team IS REASONABLE. That’s why you see other contending teams doing it. They are really trying to win, as opposed to letting exemptions just sit there unused. Last year and likely this one we have had clear holes to fill, $$ to spend, and sat on it to avoid paying tax.

 

Cool. Thanks. I have no idea how the hard cap works.

 

It's easy to say that they almost improved the team, but the fact is they didn't make any moves and they didn't pay the tax. The Rockets are the kings of "we almost did [X]," and as fans we need to separate what they say they aspire to do from what they actually do. See the world as it is, not as an alternate reality when something different might have happened.

And, it doesn't matter what they paid Paul and Harden - HOW they allocated the payroll under the tax is irrelevant. The fact is, they stayed under the tax.

If they do go into the luxury tax this year, then kudos to them. Until then, it's all talk.

(And, frankly, Tilman bragging that "we're a contender and we're not even close to tax" tells me they are more likely to stop talking about spending than they are to start spending.)

 

It is perfectly reasonable to try and avoid the tax one year of the Chris Paul contract so that you aren't subject to repeater penalties.

If they don't do it this year, I will 100% be with you. Right now, the reason they're not using the NT-MLE is because it would prevent them from landing Iguodala (or anyone else in a Shumpert deal). They view those options as preferable to the NT-MLE names.

If they end up not using Shumpert's Bird rights AND don't use the NT-MLE, I'll agree with you.

 

I'm always process over results, until the results happen over a large enough sample. To me, one year isn't that.

I guess if you want to go around assuming that everyone is lying to you, have at it. Just seems unnecessarily harsh, to me.