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Peter Vecsey: Grade 3 sprain - out 6-8 weeks - may need surgery - Chris Paul

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Dec 21, 2018.

  1. HP3

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  2. baller4life315

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    Anyone familiar with how insurance works?

    If he’s down for an extended period of time, is there a way we can utilize the disabled player exemption?
     
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  4. SamFisher

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    Cliff Paul:
     
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  5. Bowlrips

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    Idea:

    Knicks trade: Trey Burke and Courtney Lee
    Knicks receive: JR Smith and 2019 2nd rounder

    Cavs Trade: JR Smith and 2019 2nd rounder
    Cavs receive: Brandon Knight and Rockets 2019 1st

    Rockets trade: Brandon Knight and 2019 1st
    Rockets receive: Courtney Lee and Trey Burke

    Knicks cut JR. Houston signs him
    Trey Burke provides PG help for rest of season and can be resigned with a low cap hold next year
     
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  6. tinman

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    Hey dude I want to thank for posting legit sources

    Clutchfans now has people posting fake news on the GARM about trades that never were true or even rumored to be true
     
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    link or fake news
     
  9. TheSource

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    And that is our season boys
     
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    I am extremely upset. I'm gonna watch highlights from last season.
     
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    Not sure if that would have helped or just delayed the injury until late in the season. Nobody touched him but he got hurt so seems like hamstring was never good to start with.
     
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    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/12/hoops-rumors-glossary-disabled-player-exception.html

    If a player is seriously injured, his team can apply for the disabled player exception to replace him. In order for the exception to be granted, an NBA-designated physician must determine that the player is “substantially more likely than not” to be sidelined through at least June 15 of that league year. If granted, the disabled player exception allows a club to sign a replacement player for 50% of the injured player’s salary, or for the amount of the non-taxpayer’s mid-level exception, whichever is lesser.

    A team must formally apply for a disabled player exception and it requires the approval of the league. The cutoff to apply for a DPE each season is January 15. If a team has a player go down with a season-ending injury after that date, it cannot obtain a DPE to replace him. A team must also use its DPE by March 10 of the current season or it will expire.

    Unlike mid-level, bi-annual, or trade exceptions, the disabled player exception can only be used on a single player. However, a team can use it in a variety of ways — the DPE can be used to sign a free agent, to claim a player off waivers, or to acquire a player in a trade.

    If a team uses its disabled player exception to take on salary in a trade, it can acquire a player making up to 100% of the DPE amount, plus $100K. For example, a $4MM DPE could be used to trade for a player making $4.1MM. A free agent signed using the DPE can be offered a maximum of one year, while a player acquired via trade using the DPE must be in the final year of his contract. A player claimed off waivers must also be in the final year of his contract, and his salary must fit into the team’s DPE.

    In the event that a team is granted a disabled player exception, uses it to acquire a player, and then has its injured player return ahead of schedule (before the end of the season), the team is allowed to carry both players. However, the team would lose its exception if it trades the injured player, or if the player returns to action before the DPE has expired or been used.

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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

    DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to replace a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (it can also be granted in the event of a player's death). This exception is granted by the league, based on an application from the team and a determination by an NBA-designated physician or Fitness to Play panel (see question number 62) that the player is substantially more likely than not to be unable to play through the following June 15.

    If this exception is granted, the team can acquire one player via free agent signing, trade or waiver claim, to replace the disabled player:

    •The team may sign a free agent for one season only, for 50% of the disabled player's salary or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, whichever is less.

    •The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years)2, who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

    •The team may claim a player on waivers who is in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, whichever is less.

    Teams can apply for this exception from July 1 through January 15, and cannot apply after January 15. Once granted, the exception expires when a player is acquired, when the disabled player is traded or returns to the team, or on March 10 of that season, whichever comes first. This exception is granted on a season-by-season basis -- if the player will also be out the following season, the team needs to apply for this exception again the following season.

    This exception only can be granted to the team for which the player was playing when his injury or illness was known, or reasonably should have become known. A team cannot trade for an injured player and subsequently apply for a Disabled Player exception for that player.

    If a team's application for a disabled player exception is denied, the team must wait 90 days before submitting another request related to the same player, and then only for a new injury or aggravation of the same injury. Whether the application was approved or denied, the team can apply again (including for the same injury) the following season.

    If the disabled player comes back sooner than expected he may be activated immediately, and the replacement player is not affected.

    Don't confuse the Disabled Player exception with the salary cap relief teams sometimes receive after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 61). The Disabled Player exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the team's books.

    Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.
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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q73

    73. Are player contracts insured?

    There is a league-wide policy that insures the contracts of around 150 players each season for inability to perform their duties as professsional basketball players due to sickness or injury. Each team submits at least five players for coverage each season, from their five most expensive contracts based on either of the following criteria:

    •Current season salary
    •Total remaining salary (with at least two years remaining on the contract)

    Each team must insure at least five players, including the two most expensive contracts with at least two seasons remaining in each of the above categories. Teams have the option of submitting addtional names for coverage, including players with less than two seasons remaining on their contracts. Players ages 37 and over are not covered unless offered by the insurance carrier and accepted by the team.

    If an insured player is disabled, there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company pays 80% of the covered salary, which includes current and deferred compensation, and any signing bonus and incentive compensation that can be earned prior to the start of the regular season. The maximum covered salary is $28,187,500, or $275,000 per regular game. The maximum coverage for any one player is six seasons (451 games after the waiting period).

    The waiting period can span seasons, and the player even can attempt to come back -- if he does and finds that he is unable to play, the 41-game count resumes (as long as he stopped playing due to the same injury).

    The carrier has the right to exclude up to 14 players per season, with a maximum of six players per season excluded due to sickness (there are specific exceptions and sublimits to these exclusions). One example is when they excluded Luol Deng in 2008-09 because he had $71 million remaining on his contract and a history of back injuries. The list of excluded players changes each year, so a player who is not covered one season might be covered the following season. However, once a player is covered the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

    If the player is traded, his new team receives the benefit -- for example, even though Cuttino Mobley's heart condition was discovered prior to his trade to the Knicks in 2008, the Knicks received the insurance payout.
     
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  14. James Gabriel

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    I'd say Morey has to look beyond this now and plan for the future while Harden's window is open to his prime.
     
  15. Reeko

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    I watch games 4 and 5 of the WCF all the time, but lately it’s been too painful because we were so close and will probably never get another opportunity like that again while Harden is still in his prime
     
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    Don't just say something and don't post a link bro. At least let us know if it's your own source.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    We get 75% of his salary back, I believe, and they can apply for an exemption, which I think can get you a salary slot for half of his salary.....IIRC from Yao Ming days.

    DD
     
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  18. Tfor3

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    Last year was our year. Thanks Hamstrings and crooked refs/league.
     
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    Screwed we are.
     
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    Christmas sucks
     

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