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What will the Tillman sacrifice but to dump Branfon Kinght for more luxury tax profit

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Agreed.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    I miss the old Carl H.
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    You miss DeAnthony Melton.
     
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    one thing is for sure... morey didn't want to give a FRP and melton for bazemore, so its unlikely that he will now want to flip knight and a pick for bazemore. seems as though we can all move on from this name.

    i'm not as high on the on court value of knight, ennis, or chriss as you are, but i still see the ryno trade as good asset management. we came away with more tradable pieces than we gave them.
     
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    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    This point right here! If Knight + FRP is going to be flipped, it is going to be for something MORE than Bazemore.
    Now, Knight + 2nd round pick or Knight + CASH is a different story.
     
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    Rick Adelman is gone and not coming back.
     
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    Lol, Branfon.
     
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    He'd take us to spelling class.
     
  10. Granville

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    100% guarantee that the Rockets aren't dumping anyone named Branfon.
     
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    I don't think people really grasp how brutal the repeater tax is. @BimaThug noted that we save more on tax next season than this. This is crucial in keeping this core together as long as possible. The repeater tax scared off a ****ing Russian Oligarch. Billionaires are rich, sure, but the repeater is designed to break up teams that operate over the cap, not leech money out of them. The repeater will get Golden State eventually... it's a question of when.

    We also forget that while the new max contracts prevent future Golden State monstrosities from forming, it hinders current teams from challenging the current Frankenstein's monster. OKC retaining Paul George should have been a huge win. HOU keeping Chris Paul should have been a huge win. But their max contracts make it harder to build a team to challenge the Dubs. Morey's job is harder than ever.

    So, ya in a vacuum, this trade looks like penny pinching but in reality it's pragmatic tax savings now to avoid a team breaking tax bill later. This is on top of the trade flexibility with Knight's contract.

    The question is, can Morey keep this core intact and keep improving it till Harden's contract is up?
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    Does tax scare Warriors? No!

    Tax only scare lower class billionaires like Tillman!
     
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    Minor point: Bima didn't say the repeater tax had anything to do with his calculations for next year; indeed, repeater tax wouldn't get activated for another 3 years.

    What Bima was saying is that since Harden's DVPE kicks in next year, our team salary skyrockets. So, the difference between Ryno+Melton minus Knight (assuming Chriss' TO is declined) is collecting tax at a much higher progressive tax level. (NBA tax is not a flat percentage. It really starts multiplying as you get higher over the tax line. Repeater penalties is independent of that standard progression.)

    Also, if we exercise Chriss' team option by Oct 31st, willing to bet Bima's last tweets about trade implications on *next year's* tax savings would be about $12m too high...assuming his assumptions are what I think they are.
     
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  15. pippendagimp

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    then you should really blame les for selling to a guy who had to go deep in debt just to buy the franchise. i assure you there were far wealthier suitors. but not unlike morey himself, they had a number (closer to 1.7B) they just weren't willing to cross by too much.
     
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    The average net worth of NBA owners are about 3-5 billions. Steve Ballmer is like the tip of the NBA iceberg (no other Microsoft or Tech guru would invest) with 37-44 billion. (Amazon Bezos 165 billion)

    Fertitta 4.4
    Alexander 2.1
    Cuban 3.6

    Pls disclose far wealthier suitors!
     
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  17. Carl Herrera

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    I do blame Lesslie, another lower-class billionaire acting lower-class. An upper-class billionaire would not have cared about a mere $400million extra.
     
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    a major component of the process is also getting the other owners to approve the sale. a lot of those guys 1) prefer the buyer not be foreign and 2) prefer the buyer not be significantly more wealthy (and therefore) more powerful than they themselves are. trust me, the demand to buy an nba franchise is huge not just domestically but from all over the world. and a lot of prospective buyers know they have no chance, but still put a bid in anyways just to get their name out there for perhaps the next team that comes up for sale or even after that. it's literally like waiting your turn to get into the most exclusive billionaire's club.
     
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    Wow. It's on bro...the ultimate insult, a lower class Billionaire. Probably rent hookers by the hours instead of by the week like the real Billionaire from the middle east
     
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    Paul Allen - $20.3B
    Stanley Kroenke - $8.5B
     
    #40 craguin, Sep 4, 2018
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