[ClutchFans] Ryan Anderson could cost the Rockets over $100M next season

If only we knew then we would lose without Anderson playing, then we could have just started him every game and maybe he would have eventually got back in a groove and upped his trade value. Benching him the majority of the playoffs sets his value at the bottom of the bench player salary. If we didn't think he was worth playing, then it might be hard to justify even 5 million a year.

 

Why can't the Rockets amnesty the Anderson contract? Similar to what Detroit did with Josh Smith. Let it go.

 

No, that is not possible.

 

We might need to take on a worse contract.

What about Batum? I know his deal is awful and I know he isn't good anymore, but you can at least have him out there for a few minutes.

Maybe a year in DanTony system will revitalize Batum and make him more tradeable.

 

I mean, this thread is as productive as bashing a player ever goes. But is there any salary cap experts on here that can engineer a way to help rockets move him? Is that even possible at this point?

 

Some perspective:

Last summer, the Toronto Raptors traded DeMarre Carroll (then still owed about $30 million with two years remaining on his contract) to the Brooklyn Nets in a salary dump. In order to do so, the Raptors dealt their own 2018 first rounder and a second rounder they were owed from the LA Lakers, plus they took back the $3 million expiring contract of Justin Hamilton (who they subsequently waived and stretched). While the Raptors' pick ended up being the 29th overall pick, most expected that pick to fall in the 22-25 range at the time of the trade. The Lakers pick was expected to be a high second rounder (probably in the 33-37 range) and ended up being the 40th pick.

This would be the best actual prior example to use when trying to determine the cost of moving Anderson's contract. It makes more sense to use the THEN-PERCEIVED value of the draft picks at the time of the Carroll trade -- rather than where those picks actually ended up landing -- when making the appropriate comparisons.

Have at it!

 

Unfortunately, we can't use the Amnesty Provision to rid ourselves of Ryan because we already used that one-time-only move on Scola.

From Vice Sports (foreshadowing; this was written back in December):
https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/article/qvw83v/we-brought-back-the-nbas-amnesty-clause
Houston Rockets: Ryan Anderson (three years, $61.2 million)

Anderson is one of the most dependable stretch fours in NBA history, playing for the coach who basically invented that very label. But for a player who opponents will ruthlessly hunt on the defensive end throughout Houston’s playoff run, Anderson’s price tag is super steep. And for as potent as the Rockets are when he’s on the court, they’re even better when he sits.

In short, given his price tag—shedding that contract will open up a few intriguing portals for Daryl Morey in the summertime; next year Anderson will nearly make more than Eric Gordon and P.J. Tucker combined—and how Houston’s top fourth-quarter units won’t include him once games really start to matter, Anderson makes sense here.

 

Batum played pretty well two years ago, got paid, got injured and played pretty bad this year, i think i read somewhere he played most of the season on minor injuries. If healty he's a very good player, and a great fit here, can play and guard multiple positions, can pass and shoot...basically a Parson who plays defense and is not a douche. The problem yeah, is his contract, 25M for the next 3 season while Ryan gets 20M for the next 2...i have no doubt that Batum would be way better for us than Ryan, but that extra year is very risky...

 

When I said try him it was exactly that. Try. If he gets burned a couple of times, or can't hit a shot put him back on the bench. Hell nothing else was working in the 2nd half. Game was going to be lost. Why not try it. Joe Johnson was tried and did nothing. Gerald Green for as good of a story as he was this season wasn't going to lift us.

 

He only played 8 mins and was -12. In a game 7, where GS can rattle off 15pts in 5 minute stretches, why would you want that? In a series where DEFENSE is key. From a strategic standpoint, what's the benefit of Ryan Anderson playing against Golden State?

 

There is always the nuclear option, aka Operation Matt Maloney.....

Extend and Stretch

He would be on the books through 2028, but that 100m goes away.

 

If we have to eat his salary then why not just keep him on the bench as an overpaid backup and just hope he snaps out of the funk.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/yearly/cap/roster/

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/11189/ryan-anderson-cost-rockets-100-million/

one option:
* Waive Anderson and stretch his contract out over 3 years (frees up $14 mil)
* Find a home for Nene's expiring contract (frees up $3.5 mil)
* Find a home for Onuaku's expiring contract (frees up $1.5 mil)
...frees up $19 mil in additional space

Capela is gonna cost $24 mil. We probably can't sign him unless we trade for Lebron.
Paul is gonna cots $34 mil. We probably don't get Lebron unless we resign Paul.
The only way we get all 3 is a trade for Lebron; signing Lebron outright will probably cost us Capela.

If we waive anderson instead of trading him, we are gonna have trouble finding enough salary to execute a trade with Cleveland for Lebron. But adding PJ, Gordon, all of our draft picks might not be enough to get cleveland to take back Anderson anyway.

Is this characterization of the dilemma accurate?

 

Moving Tucker or Gordon to unload Anderson would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. The best option with a win now group is attaching multiple first round picks with Anderson in hopes a rebuilding team bites.

 

Batum would be really good fit actually, and Anderson and Dwight have played together on a team that went to the Finals.

Another possibility could be Allen Crabbe from Brooklyn for Anderson and a first.

 

I agree that that's the best option. But, I don't see where our draft picks have much value. Our first round picks are practically second round picks as long as we are one of the best two or three teams in the league. I would definitely give up draft picks to rid ourselves of Anderson if possible.

 

You are right that the Rockets’ picks don’t carry that much value. But to a rebuilding team, getting a couple free lottery tickets for nothing may be enticing enough.

 

We will be able to move him..... i have no doubt in that.

The only question that really remains is... are we going to have to part with Gordon to do so? Tucker? Multiple First Round picks?

 

For everyone clamoring to "Stretch" anderson.. please SHUT UP.

His salary is needed to make trades happen. With 2 years and $42 million, he isnt immovable. He will be moved, but it will just cost the Rockets.

But then again, we are ALL IN, so might as well.

But stop mentioning the Rockets just eating his money. It will serve no purpose. It will just be dead money. It wont get you under the cap to sign other players. Nothing. Soooo SHHHHHHHHH!

 

bro..HELL NAW