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What will it realistically take for the Rockets to rid themselves of Anderson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LorneMalvo, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. nomiz1987

    nomiz1987 Member

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    Anderson 20 mill with the go to 3pointer, nothing but AIR...ball. He has been playing so badly it's not even about whether or not he's in a slump, the guy has no confidence, i would have wanted him to shoot himself out of the slump in the past, but even that's not possible now, he's beyond slump or trash, he's just a liability. Him on the court is like playing 4 on 5 because even opponents know he hesitates when he's in a position to shoot most of the time.

    MOST of the time He'll catch with enough space in front of him to just launch it but he'll hesitate, do that pump fake, defender doesn't buy it, space now closed, hesitate, dribble dribble, hesitate, pass back out.
     
  2. Zergling

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    This says it all. Ryan won't even be able to achieve those marks because he's only attempting 6 threes a game, which is shocking since this system should be perfect for him. He's actually attempted more 3s per game with the Pelicans.
     
  3. nickb492

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    Why not try and get Zach Randolph and Garret Temple for Ryan Anderson and Onuaku?
     
  4. felixng2012

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    Piece of **** player, I tried to support him but he just sucks so bad.
     
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  5. roslolian

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    How come Eric Gordon didnt get an inflated contract then? He is 2x the player anderson is and got a deal much smaller. Even with the inflated salaries Anderson is still overpaid. Why dont you ask Luc or Green how much their salaries are getting inflated? Both have outplayed Anderson this season and they are making the vet min.

    What threat are you talking about? If there is no FGA then there is no threat simple as that. That's like a robber holding you up with an imaginary gun, he can fool people some of the time but the smart people will realize he is just bluffing. People won't leave Klay Thompson open because they know he will hit all his open shots. OTH people will leave Westbrick wide open and even pray that he shoots more so he can brick his team to a lose. The same thing is true with Anderson, except instead of bricking he is only gonna shoot a couple of times even if you leave him open. Anderson only shoots when nobody is within 15 feet of him, otherwise he just swings the ball to another person. How is he creating space then? Opponents will jist ignore him since they know he won't shoot anyway.

    Finally, if you just want an empty threat then there is no need to pay 18M. Tucker is also a 3 pt shooter, just have him provide the space instead and save 11M. What is the difference between a superior 3 pt shooter and an average 3 pt shooter if they both don't take shots? The answer is none.
     
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  6. Andy Sheets

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    I don't even expect anything from him on the road anymore. I'm sure he's a good locker room presence but on the court he's turning into an albatross.
     
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  7. Pluplue

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    We give up too many layups and Anderson has no inside presence. Doesn't have an outside presence either apparently.
     
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    he's starting to move into toney douglas and corey brewer territory......a huge negative and obstacle to winning when on the floor
     
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    He's probably the same in the locker room as he is on the court. Lets everyone walk all over him, says nothing if someone is within 10 ft of him, and what he does say is way off the mark.
     
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    Seems to me he isn't the same player compared to the one we saw thriving from CP's assists.

    I really think someone got in his face. Probably Harden. Haven't even seen him in a locker room interview since forever.
     
  11. buffalobills!!!

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    He can't handle Clutchfans
     
  12. brewer's goat

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    Packaging Ryno with Ariza would be the perfect move for this team, and as always sentimental idiots won't support this because Ariza is our 'glue guy' (that always shoots like crap against the Warriors and can't defend a lick when matched up against semi-competent offensive player.)
     
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  13. Phillyrocket

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    Anderson is overpaid because stretch 4s are few and far between and he did shoot 40% from 3 last year. He did his job. Problem is he doesn’t do it consistently enough, he just disappears far too often, he is a traffic cone on defense and a mediocre rebounder.

    This team would be a far better starting Tucker in the same role but with better defense/rebounding and lesser shooting and then give that $20m for a backup F/C and G. Maybe Capela and Ryno for Marc Gasol and Tyreke Evans.
     
  14. Le$$

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    I honestly think he doesn't feel all welcome here, and who can blame him with all that melo drama shoved down his throat last summer. Best bet would be to just let him go home to california in trade this summer, maybe like sac town who would probably be more suitable for his talents. Rockets could use some draft picks for sure. Maybe some early 2nds. I always thought he was a heck of a player, even in orlando. peace.
     
  15. kingkingston

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    It isn't always about players salaries. Gordon probably took less to come to a good situation where he could thrive. We just signed Green and Luc signed with us because of Chris Paul(same with Tucker)

    You don't understand it, if Anderson stands out on the wing, a defender has to cover him..........hence opening up driving lanes for Harden and Paul. It isn't always about stats and personal numbers
     
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    last month, it would have taken 1 1st round pick.

    Now, you need to give up 2 1st round pick and take back a horrible contract to get rid of Ryno
     
  17. roslolian

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    You're the one who doesn't understand, it's ALL about the player salaries. The team who wins a ring is the team that has the most talent, the NBA is set up such that the best team has a large chance of winning every series. By paying a mediocre player like Anderson the big bucks we are gimping ourselves because we got very little talent for a large amount of money compared to other teams like GSW, Spurs and Cavs who don't have massively overpaid players.

    A good example of this is Lebron, people here are saying there is a chance Lebron comes to Houston in FA, but the reality is that won't happen because we can't even afford to pay all the FAs in our team much less take on another max contract. Everything comes down to money in the end, because teams are only limited by the salary cap so the team who makes the best use of the cap wins.

    As for Anderson being covered, if Luc or Tucker stand at the 3 pt line you think defenders wont cover them? The entire offense is designed to have 4 SPACERS. So why are you only crediting Anderson for creating space when everybody except the centers create space? Anderson isn't even the one who creates the most space, Harden Cp3 and Gordon are the ones who do that. Anderson creating space isn't unique, in fact it is very normal because he just gets 1 guy whereas the 3 I mentioned get double teamed. Its such a joke to see posters like you praise Anderson.

    Anderson was so bad Green went off for 17/14/10, he just got eaten alive. Anderson was such a liability he was -12 for the game whereas Tucker who had 0 freaking pts was +1. Is that an asset to the team? Shooting 25% from 3 and allowing the opponent to have a career game, gimme a break. He can't even shoot straight despite his low number of attempts AND with Cp3 creating for him.

    This game is a preview of what will happen in the playoffs. Anderson is a joke. Come the playoffs he will regress to his mean which is a 20% 3 pt shooter while being a massive liability everywhere else. It is what happened last year and what has happened his entire career, jist check out his playoff history.
     
  18. kingkingston

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    No, the team that wins the title is the team that plays the best as a team. A champion team will always beat a team of champions

    What salary cap ? there isn't a hard salary cap in the NBA, that is why there is a luxury tax

    This game was not a preview of what will happen in the playoffs.....No Harden in it, No Durant.....last time we had those two in it, we won.

    lets blame Anderson but forget about Ariza's 1-8 shooting.....

    our win against the Warriors in the regular season last season was because of Anderson. he had 29pts and 5 threes and got injured early in another game against them.

    he had 13pts 8rebs in the first game this season

    the old +/- argument is so stupid sometimes and because bench players don't play against the same opposition as the starters do and it relies on your team mates scoring as well
     
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    Again. When we signed him. Said he would be one of the worst contracts in the nba. He has proved it time and time again. Dude is garage. Someone will take him. But it is going to take Clint or Ariza and picks to go with him.

    I would do it go DJ in a three team trade... and hope for a PF to come lose during the buyout period. Or swing a 3 team deal and fill the spot that way.

    But Ryan Anderson has to go. We can’t win with him. He sucks.
     
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  20. kingkingston

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    So many people didn't want Melo because we already had Anderson, they said he wouldn't fit in......now they want Anderson gone

    quite laughable.

    He wasn't the problem today. It was our inability to finish off quarters
     

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